is 6.0l a good way to go?
Diesel Bomber
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From: willowick, ohio
my opinion..... if u work on ur own truck (which i do) the 6.0 is your truck. great looking and with a few grand you can have a good reliable truck. the truck is already depreciated in value because of there rep... which makes it an even better buy. once the 12v is in the build stage of being not so street friendly i will most likely be in the market for a 6.0l. i think the whole cab thing is what really gives them there horrible rep.. because some of the other popular diesels problems (starting no aguements) cost alot more to fix then the 6.0 COMMON problems.
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From: copake
I would try to talk you out of a 6.0 like I would try to talk my daughter out of the **** industry.
Less head bolts-head gasket issues
Egr cooler -head gasket issues
My buddy's computer went twice couple grand a shot
Tranny isn't the strongest
Oil cooler has issues to, seen a few rear mains leaking too
Any major engine maintenance requires pulling the cab
Need I say more buy a ford 7.3,6.4,5.9 cummins or a Duramax. if you really want a sick liter they can be had alot cheaper. Seems to me the 06-07 6.0 had less issues but I wouldnt trust any of them.
Less head bolts-head gasket issues
Egr cooler -head gasket issues
My buddy's computer went twice couple grand a shot
Tranny isn't the strongest
Oil cooler has issues to, seen a few rear mains leaking too
Any major engine maintenance requires pulling the cab
Need I say more buy a ford 7.3,6.4,5.9 cummins or a Duramax. if you really want a sick liter they can be had alot cheaper. Seems to me the 06-07 6.0 had less issues but I wouldnt trust any of them.
6.4 is worse FAR WORSE!
Go ahead and buy one you will regret it with radiators that rupture and leave a 1800 dollar bill for you to eat. Most people that blow radiators end up putting another radiator in them once the replacement warranty runs out. And usually they leak a slight amount of coolant and the front covers deteriorate to the point that they look like you shot it with a 12ga at point blank with 00 shot.
I hate 6.4s i have no faith in them what so ever. Ive done 3 6.0 short blocks because of stupid things like oil jet breaking off or threw a rod. 6.4s ive done more short blocks and complete engine replacements than i care to. And they eat high pressure fuel pumps, high pressure turbos, lifters, pistons, oh man i hate that engine. and i hate engineering department... To sit there in denial and say that-high pressure fuel pumps are rare to fail unless it had water in fuel they are robust, high pressure turbos they arent know to fail they are robust. robust is not a word to describe the 6.4
6.4 is an engineering disasterpiece. everything about the truck, from cage nuts spinning to cheaply manufactured components. only good thing it has going for it are the interior and body style. i think they should all be bought back by ford and retrofitted with 6.0s or 6.7s.
They should redesign the regen crap and instead of relying on the injectors to dump fuel on the exhaust stroke, place a nozzle post turbo... thats half the issues with that engine is diluted engine oil.
in my opinion 6.0 is the way to go.
duramax and im a chevy guy, duramax sounds like crap straight piped. cummins depending on the set up sound like crap or a baby 400 big cam. 7.3 if you want a rod throwing oil leaking pig and all the vague codes to drive you up a wall....
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From: copake
no not really. if you saw what i did on a daily basis with failures and seeing ford starting to try and deny every warranty repair possible... say for example high pressure fuel pump dies. and its not related to the volume control valve or pressure control valve, a legit mechanical failure that sends crap through the entire fuel system, they want fuel samples, fuel pressure readings, so on so forth. in the end they try to deny the claim until you get on the phone with the engineer and damn near have to scream at them that the fuel filters are not over due and there are no signs of water in the fuel...
im serious the 6.4 is a lemon. and if it was a fuel problem then every single common rail diesel engine be it a ford a chevy a dodge a peterbilt johndeer volkswagen etc. then the pumps would fail in all of them regardless of make correct? if it were from bad fuel and the fuel was in the same region or station even?
seriously i have no faith in the 6.4 6.0 is the way to go easiest by far to work on. 6.7 i have yet to see major failures. i have replaced a few turbos in F450s and 550s, and a few DEF sending units. thats it. 6.4s, short of touching the bed, i have removed and replaced everything under the hood, pulled the cabs more times than i care to, and dont unless its for a short block. not worth the fight, i do turbos and up pipes in cab, oil coolers in cab, etc. Only thing i do to pull the cab is if an up pipe bolt breaks in the turbo or have to replace an engine. and if the cage nut spins i weld them to the body and ill never have to worry about a spun cage nut ever again.
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im serious the 6.4 is a lemon. and if it was a fuel problem then every single common rail diesel engine be it a ford a chevy a dodge a peterbilt johndeer volkswagen etc. then the pumps would fail in all of them regardless of make correct? if it were from bad fuel and the fuel was in the same region or station even?
seriously i have no faith in the 6.4 6.0 is the way to go easiest by far to work on. 6.7 i have yet to see major failures. i have replaced a few turbos in F450s and 550s, and a few DEF sending units. thats it. 6.4s, short of touching the bed, i have removed and replaced everything under the hood, pulled the cabs more times than i care to, and dont unless its for a short block. not worth the fight, i do turbos and up pipes in cab, oil coolers in cab, etc. Only thing i do to pull the cab is if an up pipe bolt breaks in the turbo or have to replace an engine. and if the cage nut spins i weld them to the body and ill never have to worry about a spun cage nut ever again.
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While I may not 100% agree with his stance on the 6.4, I give him credit, he know's what he's talking about and he works on them every day. He doesn't make anything up, he's just telling you what he sees all the time and is turning wrenches on. Hard to argue the facts that he faces.
I would still buy a 6.4 though... one of my favorite body styles of all time.
I would still buy a 6.4 though... one of my favorite body styles of all time.
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From: Blowing Rock,NC
While I may not 100% agree with his stance on the 6.4, I give him credit, he know's what he's talking about and he works on them every day. He doesn't make anything up, he's just telling you what he sees all the time and is turning wrenches on. Hard to argue the facts that he faces.
I would still buy a 6.4 though... one of my favorite body styles of all time.
I would still buy a 6.4 though... one of my favorite body styles of all time.
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From: copake
While I may not 100% agree with his stance on the 6.4, I give him credit, he know's what he's talking about and he works on them every day. He doesn't make anything up, he's just telling you what he sees all the time and is turning wrenches on. Hard to argue the facts that he faces.
I would still buy a 6.4 though... one of my favorite body styles of all time.
I would still buy a 6.4 though... one of my favorite body styles of all time.
Just swap a 6.0 in and make up your own radiator support your good to go. wouldnt be hard to do really.... get a diagram and quite a few spools of wire and wiring loom... make up your own harness's youd be good to go.
