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Old 12-22-2011, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by fox2boost
All im saying is the average gearhead working out of his home garage pulling a cab is not an option. im more than happy with my allison and eventually when funds are there i will build it and throw a billet convertor at it. this should be had for 3-4 grand.

And if 3 headgaskets in 90 thousand miles is normal to you then i guess i dont know what im talking about because we are on a total diffrent page as far as what is expected of a light duty diesel truck.

Not try to start a war here just stating that if one of my close freinds asked me if a 6.0 would be a good truck to buy i would try to talk them out of it.
Those headgaskets are on stock headbolts and the gaskets were replaced under warranty by Ford each and every time. They did install ARP's one time, but they never deck the heads, and I'm quite certain the tech didn't do a proper torque sequence. I really can't blame that on the truck... plus the truck definitely isn't driven lightly, I always had some sort of race tune loaded and never turned down a race. I will confidently say most of my issues, are self-inflicted. I have all the parts sitting on my kitchen table to do the job the RIGHT way this time and should be doing so in a few weeks.

Cab doesn't HAVE to come off, but it sure is easier that way. So again, I always wonder why people make a big stink of taking the cab off... I think that's a benefit, not a downfall. I could still do headgaskets cab-on in a 6.0 quicker than a d-max. Cab off is just an added benefit.

I can't disagree with you. Most of my friends don't have the time or patience to turn wrenches, so I would probably direct them away from diesels completely. The 6.0 is definitely not for everyone.

3-4 grand for an allison build? Not a very extensive build then? I know a full NADP 5R110 is about $5500. However we don't really need a built trans until we're up near 600rwhp or more. I can certainly bulletproof my 6.0 for less money than that, however I'm fortunate enough to know how to fix it myself and have a buddy with a lift!

As for your recent injector replacement, sounds pretty common place on LB7's. Have you looked into doing the LLY heads/injectors/pump?
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ok maybe my comment about the **** was a little harsh, my apoligies. Im sorry if i came off the wrong way. Again i was just conveying my personal expierences. maybe my buddy just has a basket case 6.0.

I just finished spending 2 grand and a weekend changing injectors and a vacuum pump out of my lb7 dmax. So i would also try to talk him out of buying a truck with my motor in it.

i guess what im getting at is they all have problems but i just see the cummins and dmax's as the lesser evil.

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I am definitly not a gm lover drinking haterade as i said im a ford guy that happens to drive a duramax.
Apology accepted, it's all in good fun. They certainly all have their problems.

Cummins: melting pistons since 1919.

I'm also still laughing about "drunk on haterade"....
 

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
Those headgaskets are on stock headbolts and the gaskets were replaced under warranty by Ford each and every time. They did install ARP's one time, but they never deck the heads, and I'm quite certain the tech didn't do a proper torque sequence. I really can't blame that on the truck... plus the truck definitely isn't driven lightly, I always had some sort of race tune loaded and never turned down a race. I will confidently say most of my issues, are self-inflicted. I have all the parts sitting on my kitchen table to do the job the RIGHT way this time and should be doing so in a few weeks.

Cab doesn't HAVE to come off, but it sure is easier that way. So again, I always wonder why people make a big stink of taking the cab off... I think that's a benefit, not a downfall. I could still do headgaskets cab-on in a 6.0 quicker than a d-max. Cab off is just an added benefit.

I can't disagree with you. Most of my friends don't have the time or patience to turn wrenches, so I would probably direct them away from diesels completely. The 6.0 is definitely not for everyone.

3-4 grand for an allison build? Not a very extensive build then? I know a full NADP 5R110 is about $5500. However we don't really need a built trans until we're up near 600rwhp or more. I can certainly bulletproof my 6.0 for less money than that, however I'm fortunate enough to know how to fix it myself and have a buddy with a lift!

As for your recent injector replacement, sounds pretty common place on LB7's. Have you looked into doing the LLY heads/injectors/pump?


Apology accepted, it's all in good fun. They certainly all have their problems.

Cummins: melting pistons since 1919.

I'm also still laughing about "drunk on haterade"....
i hear ya my cousin lives 5 mins down the road with a 10000 pound rotary so that wouldnt be a problem. Fixing my own trucks is one thing but the wife doesnt like it when im up till 3am wrenchin on someone else rig and it a charity job to boot.

The tranny build i was referring to was parts no labor i used to do trannys for a living, theres a decent write up on a ally 1000 so im gonna do it my self.

as for the lly head replacement no i havent looked into it, ill prolly run it a while and hope these injectors live, i put a cat 2 micron filter on and these are updated bosch remans so fingers crossed.

LBZ would love to be in my future but i have to buy the wife a new suv before that happens.
 
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:57 AM
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This month's Diesel Power has the top 10 Used Diesels to buy. I'm not implying they are the end all be all experts but, here are some more opinions that make sense.

10 Best Used Diesel Trucks (and cars) - Diesel Power Magazine
 
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:34 PM
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This month's Diesel Power has the top 10 Used Diesels to buy. I'm not implying they are the end all be all experts but, here are some more opinions that make sense.

10 Best Used Diesel Trucks (and cars) - Diesel Power Magazine
Any diesel truck mag that lists a Jeep Liberty in a article about diesel trucks is worthless. BTW ever notice how they publish articles that seem to be about 6-9 months behind what the big players are doing to their trucks?

LOL that mag is a rag.
 
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:19 PM
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i agree, just throwing it out there. My wife gets it for $0.10 at work so i look at the pictures and throw them away.
 
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Old 12-22-2011, 01:27 PM
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What's wrong with the liberty? It's diesel power mag, not a truck only mag. I think it's cool if they bring in some alternative's to the same old truck over and over.
 
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:04 PM
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What's wrong with the liberty? It's diesel power mag, not a truck only mag. I think it's cool if they bring in some alternative's to the same old truck over and over.
My wife has an 03 gas Liberty, don't get me started on what's wrong with a Liberty. The cool alternative diesel they highlighted was that German car. I found it interesting that Power Strokes were recommended as the best daily driver deals without any supporting comments as to why, or which models.

If I see a 6 oh headline, I'll check it out, other than that, Diesel Power has to keep up with the latest and greatest that I don't have the $ for.

Oh yeah, that 182 mph 6.7 was AWESOME!!!!
 
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:18 PM
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damn, i missed everything. The one day i dont get on the site somthing like this happens........(sorry mike and karl that i wasnt here to help back-up our trucks. But you guys handled it very well)
 
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:48 PM
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i'm sure the diesel liberty is similar to most cummins, the engine is awesome its the dodge/chrysler parts that let you down. I doubt they fixed or improved any of the other 1000 common Liberty flaws in the diesel model.

I find the diesel transplants in diesel power interesting and like stated above, the shiny expensive parts i think i need in all the adds.

OP - sorry to derail this thread with that link
 
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:06 PM
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There is a couple guys on the vegistroke forum with diesel liberties, one of them is converted to run on WVO as well. I know they both said they had common problems but had fixed most of them already... again, they all have issues.
 


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