5.9L Rotary Performance Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps Related To Performance And Longevity

Injectors

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:40 PM
  #141  
Budgreen's Avatar
Diesel Bomber
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,352
Likes: 50
From: Bedford OH
Default

yeah, higher pressure would end up with a better atomized spray but you would lose a bit in volume. lower pop pressure would flow more fuel but wouldn't have as nice a spray.
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:25 PM
  #142  
RSWORDS's Avatar
BOMBARDIER

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,159
Likes: 918
From: Gloucester, VA
Default

Originally Posted by Budgreen
marine is a 155* angle. and stock truck is 145* ? right?
Originally Posted by Smokem
Marine is 155° and automotive is 145°. I vary opening pressure depending on the application and pintle modification, but the VE has a short window.
non-I/C'ed is also 155* correct?
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:56 PM
  #143  
Smokem's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Diesel Bombers Sponsor
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 391
Likes: 46
From: Iowa
Default

Yes.
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:08 PM
  #144  
seandonato73's Avatar
Diesel Wrench
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 603
Likes: 9
From: lebanon, Pa
Default

still didn't answer my question...why not marine nozzles?? i'm not being a dick but i would like to know what is wrong with them. or what nozzle you think is better. i would like to get a bigger set of injectors sometime in the future, and knowing this stuff helps to make up my minde.
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 06:14 PM
  #145  
RSWORDS's Avatar
BOMBARDIER

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,159
Likes: 918
From: Gloucester, VA
Default

I woudl asumme that fro teh non-I/Ced engines it simply comes down to teh spray pattern.

Would a marine nozzle be a better choice for a non-I/C'ed piston then a 145* injector? or is there something else wrong?
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:55 PM
  #146  
big bad diesel 416's Avatar
Site Sponsor
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,719
Likes: 636
From: Lexington SC
Default

Originally Posted by RSWORDS
non-I/C'ed is also 155* correct? Marine is 155° and automotive is 145°
the non I/C motors were classified as industrial/marine in 91.5 cummins had to start with emissions and the in a somewhat way reinvented the motor for use on the road

---AutoMerged DoublePost---

Originally Posted by RSWORDS
I woudl asumme that fro teh non-I/Ced engines it simply comes down to teh spray pattern.

Would a marine nozzle be a better choice for a non-I/C'ed piston then a 145* injector? or is there something else wrong?
i ran the 145* injector (1993) with the 155* block (1990) for 300 miles then broke a valvespring pulled the head off the spray is all in the pre cup and laa looks good so i would not see a big issue with mixing the 145 and 155
 

Last edited by big bad diesel 416; Dec 8, 2009 at 09:55 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:56 PM
  #147  
Budgreen's Avatar
Diesel Bomber
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,352
Likes: 50
From: Bedford OH
Default

So smokem.

What are your eventual plans here? will you be making/having made different types of injectors and testing them out head to head?

all the fun discussion has got me anxious
 
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:58 PM
  #148  
Smokem's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Diesel Bombers Sponsor
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 391
Likes: 46
From: Iowa
Default

It has a bit to do with the spray pattern/bowl design and quench area, but the Marine nozzle in general does not seem to have a consistant wear pattern. Some will last and fire well for a long period of times, most will not. I am moving away from VCO nozzles in general, I feel this is the best option, I just have to settle on the Sac volume.
 
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:13 PM
  #149  
seandonato73's Avatar
Diesel Wrench
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 603
Likes: 9
From: lebanon, Pa
Default

oh ok thats good enouff for me, so what do i do when i want to get another set of injectors, go with the 145*s? or get custom 155*?or does it really even matter?
 
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:39 PM
  #150  
big bad diesel 416's Avatar
Site Sponsor
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,719
Likes: 636
From: Lexington SC
Default

Originally Posted by seandonato73
oh ok thats good enouff for me, so what do i do when i want to get another set of injectors, go with the 145*s? or get custom 155*?or does it really even matter?
Originally Posted by big bad diesel 416
i ran the 145* injector (1993) with the 155* block (1990) for 300 miles then broke a valvespring pulled the head off the spray is all in the pre cup and all looks good
heres my .02
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:48 PM.