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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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While removing my steering box and bracket i noticed my bracket is cracked bad. someone has already tried to fix a previous crack in the bracket and there is a big nasty crack around the bottom bolt hole. I have called the closest dodge dealership and they said it has been discontinued. I can weld the crack myself but would rather buy a new one. I have ordered the ramcharger brace and am gonna install it along with new bracket. Does anyone know where to purchase one of these brackets? Please anyone with help please reply thanks
 
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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Hmmmm, I think that's gonna be a junkyard thing. Take a picture of it with you, I bet one off of a 1/2 or 3/4 ton would work. I think they same steering box.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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Is it safe to weld these thangs back together? like i said someone already tried to weld the first crack looks like a stick bead probly 7018 but they did a crappy weld and a cant tell if it was just lack of experience stick welding or if the metal is some sort of alloy. Im guessin it is just mild steel.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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being a 92 its probably mild steel and as long as all of the old weld is grinded out of there and its cleaned properly and you get a welder that knows what they are doing it will be safe. it has to be welded just right because if it is not it will become brittle and break easier. the best thing to do probably is to find a good fab shop that can remake the bracket for you out of a better quality steel
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jtuck
being a 92 its probably mild steel and as long as all of the old weld is grinded out of there and its cleaned properly and you get a welder that knows what they are doing it will be safe. it has to be welded just right because if it is not it will become brittle and break easier. the best thing to do probably is to find a good fab shop that can remake the bracket for you out of a better quality steel
Yes im thankin that it is mild steel also. I will be welding it myself as being a pipe fitter welding is part of what i do. i have decided to use a quarter inch thick backing plate which i will weld the brace to. I will drill 1 inch access holes from the back to access the steerin box bolts. I have cut out the crack and am goin to plug weld the hole where the crack was to my backing plate. also I am goin to box the whole thang in using quarter inch so that this thang wont break again. such a poor design from the factory all the torque from steerin being put on three bolts.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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V it out and weld that bitch up. Look good at your frame too, sometimes there's stress cracks about the holes that need a little love, too....
If the frame has any cracks where the box bolts, I get new longer bolts and run a backup plate from 1/4 to 5/16's thick. That way, I never have to ever fix that again.
 

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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Screamin' Metal
V it out and weld that bitch up. Look good at your frame too, sometimes there's stress cracks about the holes that need a little love, too....
If the frame has any cracks where the box bolts, I get new longer bolts and run a backup plate from 1/4 to 5/16's thick. That way, I never have to ever fix that again.
10-4 buddy my frame checked out with no cracks thank god, I figure once i box this brace up solid and plus add the ramcharger brace i wont be losing any steering motion from frame torque, plus with more responsive steerin this thang should handle like a country boys cadillac thanks everyone for the input.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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Change to crossover steering, truck handles way better and the steering box moves back to the 2 wheel drive location and the bracket is not used.
If you don't want to do that then shoot me a PM with your address. I just put the crossover steering on mine 2 weeks ago and I think the bracket is still laying in the pile of parts that need to go to the trash. I'll give it to you if you want it, just pay shipping. It should fit in one of the USPS "if it fits, it ships" boxes that cost $12 or $13.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by laohu69
Change to crossover steering, truck handles way better and the steering box moves back to the 2 wheel drive location and the bracket is not used.
If you don't want to do that then shoot me a PM with your address. I just put the crossover steering on mine 2 weeks ago and I think the bracket is still laying in the pile of parts that need to go to the trash. I'll give it to you if you want it, just pay shipping. It should fit in one of the USPS "if it fits, it ships" boxes that cost $12 or $13.
thanks laohu69 i appreciate the offer but i completely boxed my bracket in yesterday at work welder the whole thing with 2 passes of 3/32 7018 i dont thank dynomite would blow this thang apart
 
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 92.w350
thanks laohu69 i appreciate the offer but i completely boxed my bracket in yesterday at work welder the whole thing with 2 passes of 3/32 7018 i dont thank dynomite would blow this thang apart
No problem, glad that you got the problem fixed. Guess I'll just throw the bracket in the corner of the garage in case someone needs it in the future (where it will slowly rust away until I finally decide to trash it and someone will need one 3 days later ).
 
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