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Old 07-24-2011, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS
What y'all are missing that Rampy is saying is that you shoot to stop the attack. If that means dead it means dead. If that mean after the first shot they turn and run, you stop or go to jail. If you shoot once and they fall down but are still alive you stop unless they still pose a life or death threat STILL. If they are unconscious and you shoot and kill them every state in this country WILL send you to prison for a long time. And when that is done the family will take everything you own and will own.

You shoot to stop the threat, what stopping the threat is differs every time.


On a side note, watch the language please everyone. I've had to edit a couple posts. We are not in the Badlands so no cussing please.
it's all in the way you word your statement when you give it to the cops. you never say I shot to kill the bad person you always say I shot the bad person to stop them from hurting my family of myself!! plus he had the option to live all he had to do was stop bleed'n .
 
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:01 PM
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You say I've fired in his direction as I try to flee
 
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Old 07-24-2011, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS
Hows that? He brought a rifle... I'd rater have that then ANY handgun. If your trying to say he could have shot back from the truck during the chase... Well.... That would not end well for him.
The rifle he had was a fully automatic Ruger Mini 14, I've shot them before, it's lots like shooting a M16....same caliber...same bullet...same dead goblins...

He also had a pistol or 2....
 
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS
Hows that? He brought a rifle... I'd rater have that then ANY handgun. If your trying to say he could have shot back from the truck during the chase... Well.... That would not end well for him.
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Originally Posted by Ramprat
And you will without question go to jail.....

NEVER EVER shoot to kill....



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Originally Posted by panzer
i also heard (rumor or whatever) that if you used hollow point bullets in

the act of defending yourself or your property

that it may be construed in the court of law as premeditated murder by you knowing that

the hollow point causes maximum damage to the subject that was shot

as opposed to regular solid ball ammo.


Does anyone have any input on that? ? ?

Yeah and I heard theres a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow.

This is one of the most moronic things I have ever heard. You keep on believing every "My cousins boyfriend told me..." story out there and you will be living in a fantasy world.
 

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Old 07-27-2011, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbrowngoat
it's all in the way you word your statement when you give it to the cops. you never say I shot to kill the bad person you always say I shot the bad person to stop them from hurting my family of myself!! plus he had the option to live all he had to do was stop bleed'n .
Exactly. You always shoot to stop the threat and nothing more. You can't drop him to the ground than walk up and put one in his head for good measure. That's called an execution and you WILL go to prison.

Now if you are forced to shoot the bad guy 15 times to stop his attack and he ends up dying in the process, his death is the result of HIS actions, not yours.

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Yeah and I heard theres a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow.

This is one of the most moronic things I have ever heard. You keep on believing every "My cousins boyfriend told me..." story out there and you will be living in a fantasy world.
That's a little harsh isn't it? He had a legitimate concern he wanted addressed and though it may be "moronic", it very well may be the truth in his jurisdiction.

Now on the same note, using HAND-LOADED ammunition in an otherwise justified shooting has sent many men to prison. Many prosecutors have been able to "prove" pre-meditated intent by "going out of your way to personally manufacture and assemble ammunition with the sole purpose of shooting somebody." Doesn't matter if it's a FMJ ball round. If you loaded it yourself and put it in your carry or defense piece, it's there with the "pre-meditated intent" to shoot somebody. At least that will be the prosecutor's argument.

Bottom line: Factory-loaded ammo in your defense guns. NO EXCEPTIONS. I know it's B.S. but why throw a bone to the guy who is trying to put you in prison for the rest of your life?
 




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