buddy needs money, selling me his gun, did i get ripped off
#42
Raven Concealment Phantom holster & ammo mag holder...comes configured for OWB & in less than 15 min you can convert it over to IWB, she is extremely comfortable in either OWWB or IWB...and the M&P9c is superbly comfortable even with the extended (17) round mags instead of the stock 12rd compac mags...
Last edited by Benjamin; 08-22-2012 at 04:29 PM.
#43
I just purchased the VanGuard2 from Raven Concealment and I LOVE IT.... best investment in a holster I have ever made, and I paid the most for it and it is the smallest.... go figure.... they said it *might* work on a 45ACP, but was designed for the 9mm and 40cal Glocks..... fits both the 21 and 30 3rd gen
They don't fit the 2nd gen G19's wish/hope they come out with em for the 2nd gen along with the M&P9 compac....all I can get is the original VanGuard
And it's the most you have ever paid for a holster...they are cheap....I've got a Rosen ARG rig for 1911's now that was expensive!!!!
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Once a person is vested in emotions they ignore fact based data and end up calling people names, placing labels on them and personal attacks.....
I'll stack my knowledge/training/real world experience up against yours any day of the week about firearms....
You have proven how little you actually know and have shown others that your information and posting about handguns is to be ignored as listening to you will get somebody hurt or worse....and it's prof that on diesel sites you have people venturing way out of their lane pretending to be SME.
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#44
Until then, buy a Glock 19 and be happy.
I'm a bargain barrel buy stuff used kind of guy. I think I may have purchased a few leather holsters that were upwards of $50-75, but the quantity to cost ratio is way off when in comparison....
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#45
I think I saw on Facebook where they were working on an M&P9, either that or a lot of people were requesting that specific model.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/raven...88364951212542
I'm a bargain barrel buy stuff used kind of guy. I think I may have purchased a few leather holsters that were upwards of $50-75, but the quantity to cost ratio is way off when in comparison....
https://www.facebook.com/notes/raven...88364951212542
I'm a bargain barrel buy stuff used kind of guy. I think I may have purchased a few leather holsters that were upwards of $50-75, but the quantity to cost ratio is way off when in comparison....
I'm a cheap guy...but believe in buying quality and can't see hanging a $500 gun in a $20 holster....just like the blackhawk serpa...it's total junk and can get somebody killed....so I pay a tad more for quality in this area.
#46
I reload all my ammo so its cheaper than any ammo youll buy, here the price of 9mm and 40 cal are the same 14.99 for 50... Now the 9mm is a good caliber too! espicially if you use hornady critical defense. We shot one into a 5 gallon bucket filled with water and sealed and it blew the top off and the bullet imbedded backwards, and left some fragments.. now I cant say glock has the best accuracy with factory ammo I was shooting 4 inch groups but one day I might upgrade the barrel...
Last edited by RanchhandTCR; 08-22-2012 at 07:59 PM.
#47
Really good read from the NRA...
American Rifleman September 2012
Nother excellent read:
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm
Basic wound ballistics...
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=34714
And 2 last links...if you explore the 2nd link you will learn tons about "stopping power" from one of the foremost knowledgeable guys in America today....
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887
http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=91
Last edited by Ramprat; 08-22-2012 at 11:08 PM.
#48
So, looking at your own research, which caliber is "slightly" better? The 9mm or the .40 cal. Do you really want to compare those to what a .44 mag would do?
Who is emotional and ignores the facts? I will try your Raven holster for my full sized 1911. I sweat like a pig and full Kydex is appealing......the Crossbreed is leather and Kydex and is extremely comfortable........I forgot I had mime on buy the end of the day yesterday.
Who is emotional and ignores the facts? I will try your Raven holster for my full sized 1911. I sweat like a pig and full Kydex is appealing......the Crossbreed is leather and Kydex and is extremely comfortable........I forgot I had mime on buy the end of the day yesterday.
Last edited by torqctd; 08-23-2012 at 02:25 PM.
#49
So, looking at your own research, which caliber is "slightly" better? The 9mm or the .40 cal. Do you really want to compare those to what a .44 mag would do?
Who is emotional and ignores the facts? I will try your Raven holster for my full sized 1911. I sweat like a pig and full Kydex is appealing......the Crossbreed is leather and Kydex and is extremely comfortable........I forgot I had mime on buy the end of the day yesterday.
Who is emotional and ignores the facts? I will try your Raven holster for my full sized 1911. I sweat like a pig and full Kydex is appealing......the Crossbreed is leather and Kydex and is extremely comfortable........I forgot I had mime on buy the end of the day yesterday.
#50
Everybody has a favorite bullet weight choice...but the 40 works best with heavy bullets....it is designed around the 180gr from what Ihave seen....
like the 45ACP preforms best in a 5' barrel with 230gr...and the shorter you go with the barrel the lighter the bullet should be.
And the 9mm is light and fast...124gr max for the 9mm.....
If your going to a 135 or 155 why not go with the 9mm, same bullet weight, more ammo, faster follow up shots, lower recoil/kick....and same "knock down power or 1 shot stops as the 40 short and week....
like the 45ACP preforms best in a 5' barrel with 230gr...and the shorter you go with the barrel the lighter the bullet should be.
And the 9mm is light and fast...124gr max for the 9mm.....
If your going to a 135 or 155 why not go with the 9mm, same bullet weight, more ammo, faster follow up shots, lower recoil/kick....and same "knock down power or 1 shot stops as the 40 short and week....