Just don't shoot lead bullets out of your factory barrel glock I have plenty of glocks 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 27, 35 cause I have friends that buy them, shoot some of my 1911 guns & sell me their glocks to buy a 1911 my friends sell me their guns & me being the good guy that I am buy them since I don't carry guns that don't have frame mounted safety, i use my glocks as shooters, I do have a glock 19 in the trunk of my ATV, cause if it gets mudding or i damage the finish, it's a glock, doesn't have collectors appeal it's just a everyday common tool

 

Na, glocks are like Russian Rifles, there are MILLIONS, proably if 50 years theyll be as cheap as 50 bucks !!! but i like mine. Cant wait to get reloading dies for it so I can start R&D and hopefully the D part means Development not Destroy...

 

The 1911 and all of its variants is a hell of a weapon. I own 4 different makes of 1911, Springfield, Colt, Smith & Wesson and Kimber. All of them .45 caliber, and damned accurate. But, as with any handgun, the more proficient you are, no matter the caliber, make and model, you can still get the job done. Bullet placement is the key. Practice practice practice, shoot shoot shoot. Be serious about your shooting. "Spray and Pray" just gets expensive and borders on negligence IMO!

 

Can't argue with the practice aspect or the .45 cal. However, I took over a .40 cal. H & K USP Compact after my wife decided she liked the Hi-Power better. It is much lighter to carry and is a great point and shoot weapon for me. I love my Colt 1911, but the H & K is a pleasure to carry concealed.

 

40 cal ammo is not cheap, take a look around the net and compare ammo prices.......It's somewhat more expense than 9mm....

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You need to do some research into the 40....it's buit from a compromise...it's a weak smaller 10mm, has less rounds than a 9mm, more than a 45...it does nothing that much better than either the 9mm or the 45 when you compare all three calibers are using modern self defense ammo...

Practice ammo the 9mm is cheaper & it's easier, faster and quicker to re index the 9mm on target...as we all know shot placement is key....

I know a SO who shot a guy in the heart with a 180gr 40 cal JHP.

The perp lived long enough to get to the hospital by ambulance, for the ER to crack his chest and try to save him. A friend was holding the guys heart in his hands as the surgeon was trying to repair it when the guy finally died...he lived for over 30 min after being shot in the heart by a 40 cal short and weak....now you tell me the 40 is a death ray and I'll laugh at you...it does NOTHING better than the 9mm or 45 ACP.....

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Sorry...you are 100% wrong....but hey, keep spending money on 40 cal, that means there is more 9mm for me

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Yep, I'd not argue with getting a 45 ACP glock, have held and shot Glock 21/21SF but will not ever own a Glock 22 or other 40 cal glock and not long ago sold a G22....

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This is true, the polygonal rifling GLock uses does not grip the bullet very well and lead tends to sluff off & that coupled with the high pressure of 9mm and 40 cal things can go KABOOM rather quick.

However, if I remember right the 45 Glocks use a different rifling that holds the bullet better & with the lower pressures generated by the 45 you can use lead in a 45 glock...but don't do that 1st without doing your own research....

 

Raven Concealment Phantom holster & ammo mag holder...comes configured for OWB & in less than 15 min you can convert it over to IWB, she is extremely comfortable in either OWWB or IWB...and the M&P9c is superbly comfortable even with the extended (17) round mags instead of the stock 12rd compac mags...

Sorry for the crappy pictures, holster is really a dark black...flat finish...and nobody builds a better kydex holster with the modularity as Raven Concealment...nobody....they are by far one of if not the very best kydex holster on the market....and in fact I own a RC holster for a Sig 229 & have yet another on order for a M&P9c with a TLR3 on it...and am looking at having a 9c modified with a Trijicon RMR RM02 and some other custom work just cuz I can

 

When using 40 S & W ammo for self defense, I rather have the 135 gr. or 155 gr.

 

Everybody has a favorite bullet weight choice...but the 40 works best with heavy bullets....it is designed around the 180gr from what Ihave seen....

like the 45ACP preforms best in a 5' barrel with 230gr...and the shorter you go with the barrel the lighter the bullet should be.


And the 9mm is light and fast...124gr max for the 9mm.....

If your going to a 135 or 155 why not go with the 9mm, same bullet weight, more ammo, faster follow up shots, lower recoil/kick....and same "knock down power or 1 shot stops as the 40 short and week....

 

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You need to do some research on man stopping power, a 44 mag. and a .40 cal are superior to the 9mm in this category......the 9mm is certainly no match for a .44 mag and does not stand up to a .40 cal either I don't care if good PD ammo for a .40 cal is a bit more expensive than that of 9 mm.......I'll pay the extra for the performance. You need to educate yourself on ballistics. FYI, my wife insists on a 9mm Hi-Power, so I did do some research......the 124 gr. 9mm has better killing stats than the 147 gr. bullet of the same cal., but falls short of the .40 cal.

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I would say Crossbreed's holsters are just as good as Raven's.

 

You need to do some research on man stopping power, a 44 mag. and a .40 cal are superior to the 9mm in this category......the 9mm is certainly no match for a .44 mag and does not stand up to a .40 cal either I don't care if good PD ammo for a .40 cal is a bit more expensive than that of 9 mm.......I'll pay the extra for the performance. You need to educate yourself on ballistics. FYI, my wife insists on a 9mm Hi-Power, so I did do some research......the 124 gr. 9mm has better killing stats than the 147 gr. bullet of the same cal., but falls short of the .40 cal.

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Dude, show me one single police department that issues the 44 mag.......they don't it's a **** poor man stopper....and that you think the 44 mag is such a great caliber says it all right there...

The 44 mag was designed for hunting not people killing...and the 240gr JHP will just punch a hole in a person....you need to stop watching and believing everything ya see on TV.....

Ever hear of a gentleman named Elmer Kieth....

The 9mm with a 124gr Speer Gold Dot bullet is much better than the 44 mag ias a personal defense weapon....

Crossbreed holsters are NOT just as good as Raven Concealment...for one thing they are not a all kydex holster....not in the same class..;...it's like saying a pear is the same as a apple.....