buddy needs money, selling me his gun, did i get ripped off
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you should have said,
Originally Posted by gunman41mag;
I don't like carrying a loaded gun that I am not properly trained on because I am scared my booger hook might be in the wrong spot at the wrong time and I might shoot myself, that is why I prefer a gun with elevinteen safeties, it helps protect me and whomever I am defending myself against, from not being injured due to my negligence because I am busy fiddling with all the safeties trying to get the gun to fire. This allows the bad guy to escape and lets me properly orient the gun to make sure it isn't pointed towards me while I am disabling all the safeties. I sure hope the bad guy dosen't have a Glock, he might be able to squeeze off a complete magazine before I can make my gun ready to fire.
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Ramprat (08-20-2012)
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The Glock is an effective weapon, shoots nice, relatively smooth, but, the plastic polymer frame and heavy steel slide assembly makes it top heavy. There is no real balance to it. I used to me a Glock armorer, amongst other makes, when I was a popo. The OP in my opinion, got a pretty good deal. I have my preferences and Glock just isnt one of them, nor is any polymer/ composite handgun. Im a 1911 single action .45 fanatic. That was my duty carry for many many years. As with any sidearm, the more you shoot, the better you get, and you get used to their respective quirks.
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Then why did you buy one????????
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Sure sounds like a training issue instead of a hardware issue to me......
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No such thing as some fashion of cocked and locked...either it's in condition one or it's not, no in between....
Here are Col Jeff Coopers conditions...
Cooper favored the Colt M1911 and its variants. There are several conditions of readiness in which such a weapon can be carried. Cooper promulgated most of the following terms:
Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down.
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition Two: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition One: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on. (cocked and locked)
Condition Zero: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.
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You are so full of brown gooey substance that slips out the one eyes brown starfish.....
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Agree with what......just cuz a pistol has a round in the chamber does not mean it's "cocked and locked"
Just like a magazine and clip are not the same thing....
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A firearm is considered loaded when a pistol has a magazine inserted in the magazine well and locked into position, but the chamber is empty....
Ever hear of the Israeli method or technique of carrying a semi auto pistol?
You would be surprised how many military units carry a M16, M9, M11 or other pistols with a fully loaded magazine inserted into the weapon, but the chamber empty.....
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Originally Posted by gunman41mag;
I don't like carrying a loaded gun that I am not properly trained on because I am scared my booger hook might be in the wrong spot at the wrong time and I might shoot myself, that is why I prefer a gun with elevinteen safeties, it helps protect me and whomever I am defending myself against, from not being injured due to my negligence because I am busy fiddling with all the safeties trying to get the gun to fire. This allows the bad guy to escape and lets me properly orient the gun to make sure it isn't pointed towards me while I am disabling all the safeties. I sure hope the bad guy dosen't have a Glock, he might be able to squeeze off a complete magazine before I can make my gun ready to fire.
Exactly, bet gunman would be ubber surprised at how many people in times of stress fumble with the manual safety...no matter how much training they have....the external safety can and has been a problem in times of high stress....and can get one hurt or even killed.......
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Have been debating on taking the Glock armorers course...not sure if I really want to or not, have 2 2nd G19's and ifin ya ask me they are the best of all the Glocks and only Glock I'll ever own unless the price is just beyond cheap......and then only if it's a 9mm or 45...none of the 40 cal short and weak crap......
My preferences nowadays runs to the M&P, love that platform....and think ya can't beat it...but have a few 1911's and do enjoy shooting the TRP...she is a sweeeet 1911...
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Here are Col Jeff Coopers conditions...
Cooper favored the Colt M1911 and its variants. There are several conditions of readiness in which such a weapon can be carried. Cooper promulgated most of the following terms:
Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down.
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition Two: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition One: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on. (cocked and locked)
Condition Zero: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.
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Agree with what......just cuz a pistol has a round in the chamber does not mean it's "cocked and locked"
Just like a magazine and clip are not the same thing....
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A firearm is considered loaded when a pistol has a magazine inserted in the magazine well and locked into position, but the chamber is empty....
Ever hear of the Israeli method or technique of carrying a semi auto pistol?
You would be surprised how many military units carry a M16, M9, M11 or other pistols with a fully loaded magazine inserted into the weapon, but the chamber empty.....
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Originally Posted by gunman41mag;
I don't like carrying a loaded gun that I am not properly trained on because I am scared my booger hook might be in the wrong spot at the wrong time and I might shoot myself, that is why I prefer a gun with elevinteen safeties, it helps protect me and whomever I am defending myself against, from not being injured due to my negligence because I am busy fiddling with all the safeties trying to get the gun to fire. This allows the bad guy to escape and lets me properly orient the gun to make sure it isn't pointed towards me while I am disabling all the safeties. I sure hope the bad guy dosen't have a Glock, he might be able to squeeze off a complete magazine before I can make my gun ready to fire.
Exactly, bet gunman would be ubber surprised at how many people in times of stress fumble with the manual safety...no matter how much training they have....the external safety can and has been a problem in times of high stress....and can get one hurt or even killed.......
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The Glock is an effective weapon, shoots nice, relatively smooth, but, the plastic polymer frame and heavy steel slide assembly makes it top heavy. There is no real balance to it. I used to me a Glock armorer, amongst other makes, when I was a popo. The OP in my opinion, got a pretty good deal. I have my preferences and Glock just isnt one of them, nor is any polymer/ composite handgun. Im a 1911 single action .45 fanatic. That was my duty carry for many many years. As with any sidearm, the more you shoot, the better you get, and you get used to their respective quirks.
My preferences nowadays runs to the M&P, love that platform....and think ya can't beat it...but have a few 1911's and do enjoy shooting the TRP...she is a sweeeet 1911...
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Benjamin (08-21-2012)
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I think the glock a decent gun for the money, its not the best in the world and its by far from the worst, I much preffer it from the Springfield XD's there triggers get real spongy. I preffer revolvers out of any handgun, but this was given to me as a gift from my brother and I think he did it to make me look like an *** because Ive been sayin how much I hate glocks for the last umpteen years... Now I have one and I enjoy shooting it and carrying it, yes its a 40 cal, cheep like a 9mm and hits like a 45.(Somewhat) bullets have changed so much over the years the 9mm will kill some one just as fast as a 44 mag. Any how dead is dead. just because you carry the biggest gun to the gun fight doesnt mean you can shoot it. What I like the most about my glock is I can carry it all day every day and it doesnt hurt my back like the XD's,CZ 75 or a Ruger Black Hawk 44. (Sounds wimpy that those guns hurt my back, but it does and it a factor I have to consider in chosing a gun to carry)
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Then why did you buy one????????
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Sure sounds like a training issue instead of a hardware issue to me......
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No such thing as some fashion of cocked and locked...either it's in condition one or it's not, no in between....
Here are Col Jeff Coopers conditions...
Cooper favored the Colt M1911 and its variants. There are several conditions of readiness in which such a weapon can be carried. Cooper promulgated most of the following terms:
Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down.
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition Two: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition One: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on. (cocked and locked)
Condition Zero: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.
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You are so full of brown gooey substance that slips out the one eyes brown starfish.....
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Agree with what......just cuz a pistol has a round in the chamber does not mean it's "cocked and locked"
Just like a magazine and clip are not the same thing....
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A firearm is considered loaded when a pistol has a magazine inserted in the magazine well and locked into position, but the chamber is empty....
Ever hear of the Israeli method or technique of carrying a semi auto pistol?
You would be surprised how many military units carry a M16, M9, M11 or other pistols with a fully loaded magazine inserted into the weapon, but the chamber empty.....
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Originally Posted by gunman41mag;
I don't like carrying a loaded gun that I am not properly trained on because I am scared my booger hook might be in the wrong spot at the wrong time and I might shoot myself, that is why I prefer a gun with elevinteen safeties, it helps protect me and whomever I am defending myself against, from not being injured due to my negligence because I am busy fiddling with all the safeties trying to get the gun to fire. This allows the bad guy to escape and lets me properly orient the gun to make sure it isn't pointed towards me while I am disabling all the safeties. I sure hope the bad guy dosen't have a Glock, he might be able to squeeze off a complete magazine before I can make my gun ready to fire.
Exactly, bet gunman would be ubber surprised at how many people in times of stress fumble with the manual safety...no matter how much training they have....the external safety can and has been a problem in times of high stress....and can get one hurt or even killed.......
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Have been debating on taking the Glock armorers course...not sure if I really want to or not, have 2 2nd G19's and ifin ya ask me they are the best of all the Glocks and only Glock I'll ever own unless the price is just beyond cheap......and then only if it's a 9mm or 45...none of the 40 cal short and weak crap......
My preferences nowadays runs to the M&P, love that platform....and think ya can't beat it...but have a few 1911's and do enjoy shooting the TRP...she is a sweeeet 1911...
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Sure sounds like a training issue instead of a hardware issue to me......
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No such thing as some fashion of cocked and locked...either it's in condition one or it's not, no in between....
Here are Col Jeff Coopers conditions...
Cooper favored the Colt M1911 and its variants. There are several conditions of readiness in which such a weapon can be carried. Cooper promulgated most of the following terms:
Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down.
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition Two: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition One: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on. (cocked and locked)
Condition Zero: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.
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You are so full of brown gooey substance that slips out the one eyes brown starfish.....
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
Agree with what......just cuz a pistol has a round in the chamber does not mean it's "cocked and locked"
Just like a magazine and clip are not the same thing....
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
A firearm is considered loaded when a pistol has a magazine inserted in the magazine well and locked into position, but the chamber is empty....
Ever hear of the Israeli method or technique of carrying a semi auto pistol?
You would be surprised how many military units carry a M16, M9, M11 or other pistols with a fully loaded magazine inserted into the weapon, but the chamber empty.....
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Originally Posted by gunman41mag;
I don't like carrying a loaded gun that I am not properly trained on because I am scared my booger hook might be in the wrong spot at the wrong time and I might shoot myself, that is why I prefer a gun with elevinteen safeties, it helps protect me and whomever I am defending myself against, from not being injured due to my negligence because I am busy fiddling with all the safeties trying to get the gun to fire. This allows the bad guy to escape and lets me properly orient the gun to make sure it isn't pointed towards me while I am disabling all the safeties. I sure hope the bad guy dosen't have a Glock, he might be able to squeeze off a complete magazine before I can make my gun ready to fire.
Exactly, bet gunman would be ubber surprised at how many people in times of stress fumble with the manual safety...no matter how much training they have....the external safety can and has been a problem in times of high stress....and can get one hurt or even killed.......
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Have been debating on taking the Glock armorers course...not sure if I really want to or not, have 2 2nd G19's and ifin ya ask me they are the best of all the Glocks and only Glock I'll ever own unless the price is just beyond cheap......and then only if it's a 9mm or 45...none of the 40 cal short and weak crap......
My preferences nowadays runs to the M&P, love that platform....and think ya can't beat it...but have a few 1911's and do enjoy shooting the TRP...she is a sweeeet 1911...
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gunman41mag (08-21-2012)
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I use to hate Glocks, but after having zero issues with them in comparison to other firearms I have had in the past, I have learned to love them. the only guns I have had that were more reliable than my Glocks were revolvers, and those have 1/3 the ammo capicity, and my pump shot gun, and you can't easily conceal it on your person for every day carry....