Idiots!
#101
I agree haha, it seems like these type of threads start of simple and honest and end up somewhere completely wrong, oh well can't say i'm not guilty when it comes to that
#102
I wrote a email to chevron corp.
Asked them if it was ok to add two cycle oil to my diesel fuel to lubricate my vp44.
The response was: Don't ever add two cycle oil to your fuel, use fuel injection cleaner.
What! What!
Nothing more to say or add, just sharing chevrons employees intelegence.
Asked them if it was ok to add two cycle oil to my diesel fuel to lubricate my vp44.
The response was: Don't ever add two cycle oil to your fuel, use fuel injection cleaner.
What! What!
Nothing more to say or add, just sharing chevrons employees intelegence.
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#103
Just ask any vendor if their product is any good and see what they say.
#104
This Post
When I started this post it was not my intention to have a uprising against each others belief, or politics.
Ok my truck is not new it is a 2002. It has the 5.9 cummins. I lost a vp44 and have now replaced it.
I am now running the two cycle oil in it. It does run quieter. I worked as a mechanic for 26 years and I am now retired, so what!
I have seen lots of two cycle engines and tore them down. If lubricated as required they last a long time.
If not then they end up in the trash. There is no substitution for lubrication and now matter how you get it when you have enough, it works.
I consider the cost of adding it to my fuel, and I consider the tips that I leave on the table when I am out eating at a resturant.
If I can afford a few bucks to leave on a table at a chinese buffet to a person that only brings me a glass of tea, and can't even speak english! why not put it in my tank and have a mental thought of satisfaction that I am doing better then giving it away to someone I don't even know.
I will keep choosing the later. At least my engine is mush quiter running down the highway, and it's going to my benefit.
I never knew how much a simple thread could upset people and it really doesn't matter.
It's your truck, and your money. So do what is best for you and DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!
Ok my truck is not new it is a 2002. It has the 5.9 cummins. I lost a vp44 and have now replaced it.
I am now running the two cycle oil in it. It does run quieter. I worked as a mechanic for 26 years and I am now retired, so what!
I have seen lots of two cycle engines and tore them down. If lubricated as required they last a long time.
If not then they end up in the trash. There is no substitution for lubrication and now matter how you get it when you have enough, it works.
I consider the cost of adding it to my fuel, and I consider the tips that I leave on the table when I am out eating at a resturant.
If I can afford a few bucks to leave on a table at a chinese buffet to a person that only brings me a glass of tea, and can't even speak english! why not put it in my tank and have a mental thought of satisfaction that I am doing better then giving it away to someone I don't even know.
I will keep choosing the later. At least my engine is mush quiter running down the highway, and it's going to my benefit.
I never knew how much a simple thread could upset people and it really doesn't matter.
It's your truck, and your money. So do what is best for you and DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!
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#105
When I started this post it was not my intention to have a uprising against each others belief, or politics.
Ok my truck is not new it is a 2002. It has the 5.9 cummins. I lost a vp44 and have now replaced it.
I am now running the two cycle oil in it. It does run quieter. I worked as a mechanic for 26 years and I am now retired, so what!
I have seen lots of two cycle engines and tore them down. If lubricated as required they last a long time.
If not then they end up in the trash. There is no substitution for lubrication and now matter how you get it when you have enough, it works.
I consider the cost of adding it to my fuel, and I consider the tips that I leave on the table when I am out eating at a resturant.
If I can afford a few bucks to leave on a table at a chinese buffet to a person that only brings me a glass of tea, and can't even speak english! why not put it in my tank and have a mental thought of satisfaction that I am doing better then giving it away to someone I don't even know.
I will keep choosing the later. At least my engine is mush quiter running down the highway, and it's going to my benefit.
I never knew how much a simple thread could upset people and it really doesn't matter.
It's your truck, and your money. So do what is best for you and DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!
Ok my truck is not new it is a 2002. It has the 5.9 cummins. I lost a vp44 and have now replaced it.
I am now running the two cycle oil in it. It does run quieter. I worked as a mechanic for 26 years and I am now retired, so what!
I have seen lots of two cycle engines and tore them down. If lubricated as required they last a long time.
If not then they end up in the trash. There is no substitution for lubrication and now matter how you get it when you have enough, it works.
I consider the cost of adding it to my fuel, and I consider the tips that I leave on the table when I am out eating at a resturant.
If I can afford a few bucks to leave on a table at a chinese buffet to a person that only brings me a glass of tea, and can't even speak english! why not put it in my tank and have a mental thought of satisfaction that I am doing better then giving it away to someone I don't even know.
I will keep choosing the later. At least my engine is mush quiter running down the highway, and it's going to my benefit.
I never knew how much a simple thread could upset people and it really doesn't matter.
It's your truck, and your money. So do what is best for you and DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!
#106
Although inconclusive, I have enjoyed spending the time to read the entire thread. I have read many other posts on different sites dealing with the same subject.
There was a statement made early on that additives of any kind whee a waste of money. To this I must heartedly disagree. I use Stabil in all of the small engines that I own when I lay them up for the season. Also in my RV both gas and diesel when know they will not be used for an extensive period of time. In over 25 years, I have never had a fuel degradation problem in anything that this product was added to the fuel.
Further, there is a product out there called Howes Motor Elixer. A strange name I know but, when I used this product in trucks that operated in New England and the upper Midwest during extreme winter months, I never had a gelling problem with the fuel.
There is truth in the statement that additives cost money and that some work and some provide little if any benefit. I can only attest to the benefit (not percieved but proven to me by experience), that these two are benefiicial.
BTW, I use 2 cycle in my '97 because I like the way the exhaust smells, and you can't argue with that.
There was a statement made early on that additives of any kind whee a waste of money. To this I must heartedly disagree. I use Stabil in all of the small engines that I own when I lay them up for the season. Also in my RV both gas and diesel when know they will not be used for an extensive period of time. In over 25 years, I have never had a fuel degradation problem in anything that this product was added to the fuel.
Further, there is a product out there called Howes Motor Elixer. A strange name I know but, when I used this product in trucks that operated in New England and the upper Midwest during extreme winter months, I never had a gelling problem with the fuel.
There is truth in the statement that additives cost money and that some work and some provide little if any benefit. I can only attest to the benefit (not percieved but proven to me by experience), that these two are benefiicial.
BTW, I use 2 cycle in my '97 because I like the way the exhaust smells, and you can't argue with that.
#108
At least I know what I'm talking about! You're just a fraud.
Well I'm sorry that you don't understand the meaning of what I said.
Tell that to my employer.
Not everyone. Many people here have a functioning brain capable of rational thought.
You're comparing two completely different areas of operation.
What are you babbling on about now? Rework what engines? You mean the millions of stock vehicles in fleets running on ULSD without any problems?
That is false information. A properly tuned engine will have all the oxygen it needs to burn completely and cleanly.
Need more air? Thats why you have a turbo, turn up the boost or cut back the fuel.
That is false information. Noise = combustion. The only form of combustion that can cause increased wear is detonation, impossible in a diesel unless you're injecting supplemental fuel to the intake.
Thats due to poor combustion contaminating the oil, not noise.
Real mechanics have no say in the fueling of vehicles unless its their personal vehicle or a very small fleet.
In either case you're reverting to that old anecdote and opinion argument, they hold no scientific value. I've known "real diesel mechanics" that say its good to flush an engine by running it with kerosene in the crankcase for several minutes.
I'm not your butler. Go to ASE's site and look up the test schedules yourself.
Well I'm sorry that you don't understand the meaning of what I said.
oh and your 6 years of wrenching diesels is not impressive in the least.
but hey youve been working on them for 6 years so we are all just dumb rednecks right?!
You're comparing two completely different areas of operation.
guess what my friend yes it is the cause of problems in older engines if not why did they have to rework the fuel systems in new engines
read the statement above this one. If you are ase certified you would know by interducing more oxygen into the fuel mixture you will have a better burn of fuel.
Need more air? Thats why you have a turbo, turn up the boost or cut back the fuel.
My friend noise equals wear
you ever hear a unbalanced engine they sound like crap and wear fast.
Talk to a real diesel mechanic and ask them how well the like PS.
In either case you're reverting to that old anecdote and opinion argument, they hold no scientific value. I've known "real diesel mechanics" that say its good to flush an engine by running it with kerosene in the crankcase for several minutes.
Also if you dont mind me asking where did you go to get your ASE certifcation?
#109
Well, if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black.
That would be due to lack of credibility from the source.
Right. He changes tires down at the bus garage.
An a few whose only capability is emitting gibberish.
So injectors and injection pumps don't make noise?
You mean the ones like you whose mechanical knowledge and experience basically amounts to trying to comprehend computer readouts and replacing parts?
Right. He changes tires down at the bus garage.
So injectors and injection pumps don't make noise?
You mean the ones like you whose mechanical knowledge and experience basically amounts to trying to comprehend computer readouts and replacing parts?
#110
My friend you are not a real mechanic if you don’t see the logic behind how a properly operating fuel system is essential to the effective implantation of power adding products. You mention that you don’t need propane or nitrous just add a bigger turbo to burn better well guess what without clean and lubed fuel system then it doesn’t matter what you add. Also a unbalanced engine is not due to improper combustion my friend it is improper timing and the lack or mass to counter balance then improper combustion is a result.
Oh by the way guess what noise = wear it’s a fact of life. You ever take two blocks of metal and rub them together they create noise and wear however you place a drop of oil between them and guess what no noise and less wear.
Also I know I aint your butler and I know where I can get a certification at but you say you have yours and you say you work for whoever well guess what show me proof is what I’m asking after all this is the internet . Also while you were in a class somewhere I was more than likely under the hood of a otr truck working to pay my way through college not to mention I have worked on tractors and my own trucks for years before that.
Oh by the way guess what noise = wear it’s a fact of life. You ever take two blocks of metal and rub them together they create noise and wear however you place a drop of oil between them and guess what no noise and less wear.
Also I know I aint your butler and I know where I can get a certification at but you say you have yours and you say you work for whoever well guess what show me proof is what I’m asking after all this is the internet . Also while you were in a class somewhere I was more than likely under the hood of a otr truck working to pay my way through college not to mention I have worked on tractors and my own trucks for years before that.
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