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elshadow001 08-17-2010 07:00 PM

Idiots!
 
I wrote a email to chevron corp.

Asked them if it was ok to add two cycle oil to my diesel fuel to lubricate my vp44.

The response was: Don't ever add two cycle oil to your fuel, use fuel injection cleaner.

What! What!

Nothing more to say or add, just sharing chevrons employees intelegence.

:s:

ForcedInduction 08-17-2010 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by elshadow001 (Post 606965)
just sharing chevrons employees intelegence.

High intelligence it is. Two-cycle oil has no place in a diesel engine.

24vmatt 08-17-2010 08:13 PM

sure it does
https://www.dieselbombers.com/altern...il-thread.html

rednekroper05 08-17-2010 08:40 PM

I imagine that they legally wouldnt tell because the email could be saved and if any harm came from their advice then they could be held liable.

ForcedInduction 08-18-2010 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by 24vmatt (Post 607015)
sure it does

I see a whole lot of anecdotal discussion but no scientific research or reports from anyone in the petroleum R&D business.

Additives are completely unnecessary in the first place. Raw diesel has a minimum lubricity spec it has to meet and distribution stations add their own additives on top of it.
The entire "sulfur" scare is perpetuated by additive producers to sell more product.

24vmatt 08-18-2010 09:09 AM

Form
Mopar1973Man

Well Since DB.com has a 2 cycle oil thread I better get to work here...

Here we go... First off let me post my web site links...
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mopar197..._cycle_oil.htm

Second off here is my Dyno results running 105:1 Ratio of 2 cycle oil and Diesel fuel.

Ok Gang!

I got more to report about conserning 2 cycle oil and HP/TQ numbers... Yes I got my truck on to the rollers and got to dyno it out... You all are going to be shocked with my numbers.

First off let me lay down some baseline information. You all have seen my web page on my BOMBs and MODs I've done. Ok... We all know that the 2002 Cummins SO is rated for 235 HP 460TQ at the flywheel.


Run #1 - Stock mode with Edge Comp Turned off.
228 HP - 462 TQ

Well this proves there is very little drag between the flywheel to the rear end. Also this proves there was very little change in HP/TQ number conserning 2 cycle oil. I'm using conventional Dino lubes in everything except the transmission which requires the Castrol SynTorque. But still even this number is high for HP/TQ at the rear wheels... 2 Cycle oil maybe???


Run #2 - Edge Comp turned on 5x5
379 HP - 831 TQ

Run #3 - Edge Comp turned on 5x5
381 HP - 826 TQ


Ok we all know the Edge Comp give about 120 HP on 5x5 seting but now do the math. 381 - 228 = 153 - 120 = 33 HP difference! Where did this power come from? I got no other fueling enhancements and only a BHAF and straight piped exhaust 3"... It's got to be the 2 cycle oil helping the burn.. So never the less I'm a extremely happy camper and will continue to use 2 cycle oil. I will report my ratio of mix here soon I need to pull the information from my fueling logs. I know I'm much lower that 128:1 because I added a full quart to my last fill up.




Read more: https://www.dieselbombers.com/altern...#ixzz0wxzCHZB9


How u like them apples!

NadirPoint 08-18-2010 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 607229)
...diesel has a minimum lubricity spec it has to meet and distribution stations add their own additives on top of it.

Absolutely true. I would add that I don't normally go with "minimum" type measures when trying to meet some objective or standard with regard to the equipment I maintain and operate. I usually go for things more like "maximum" and "higher" when it comes to my engines, especially where power and reliability come into play.

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 607229)
The entire "sulfur" scare is perpetuated by additive producers to sell more product.

Absolutely false. The entire sulphur scare comes about because of the EPA, the green lobby and their infinite wisdom about how to engineer diesel engines and their fuel systems. They also know alot about how to control air pollution with ethanol in fuel as well. :w2:

24vmatt 08-18-2010 12:10 PM

:pca1:

Horns 08-18-2010 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by NadirPoint (Post 607254)
Absolutely true. I would add that I don't normally go with "minimum" type measures when trying to meet some objective or standard with regard to the equipment I maintain and operate. I usually go for things more like "maximum" and "higher" when it comes to my engines, especially where power and reliability come into play.

Absolutely false. The entire sulphur scare comes about because of the EPA, the green lobby and their infinite wisdom about how to engineer diesel engines and their fuel systems. They also know alot about how to control air pollution with ethanol in fuel as well. :w2:

Woohoo, someone knows whats up!

ForcedInduction 08-19-2010 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by 24vmatt (Post 607243)
Here we go... First off let me post my web site links...
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mopar197..._cycle_oil.htm

It would help if your site actually worked...


Second off here is my Dyno results
That proves absolutely nothing. "Knowing" it provides "about 120hp" is not proof it produces 120hp. What you've posted is known as speculation, not science.
If you expect your "test" to be taken seriously by people with functioning neurons you need to actually test the fuel, not guess.


I got no other fueling enhancements and only a BHAF and straight piped exhaust 3"... It's got to be the 2 cycle oil helping the burn.
Wrong.


Absolutely false.
You sure are.
Sulfur has zero to do with lubricity. Its the process of removing sulfur that alters it. What little is lost is more than made up for artificially by the refinery.


Woohoo, someone knows whats up!
You and NadirPoint are far from it! Keep dumping money on useless crap, clearly I can't stop either of you with logic or scientific fact!


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