Opinion On Motor Oils
#31
08-16-2010, 12:03 PM
Diesel Bomber
I fully disagree with you CSIPD! Granted his ways are different and Possibly time consuming. But what proof do you have that he is wrong? He is the only guy out there that has put up any video info on PowerStrokes. is this your opinion. if it were True B.S he would have been sued for false info and the cite would be closed. He has a degree, certified Ford Tech, ASE Certified and has field knowledge. so help me to understand? I was only trying to help. You seem negative towards my posts rather then helpful?
Just to let you know. I have done the same HPOP procedure my self on many 7.3l powerstrokes. and they have never had the procedure done to them. I saw the same thick black used oil that he has showed. My own power-stoke is done regularly. the oil looks much improved. I have seen on my own truck one of the injector codes cleared and has yet to return. Have you tried this? It sounds like to me IMO allot of shops will not do his procedures because it adds time, and labor. so they discredit somebody for thinking of something. that they don't wan't to do. (or maybe
HE gave secrets to the public that shop owners want kept a secret?)
Just to let you know. I have done the same HPOP procedure my self on many 7.3l powerstrokes. and they have never had the procedure done to them. I saw the same thick black used oil that he has showed. My own power-stoke is done regularly. the oil looks much improved. I have seen on my own truck one of the injector codes cleared and has yet to return. Have you tried this? It sounds like to me IMO allot of shops will not do his procedures because it adds time, and labor. so they discredit somebody for thinking of something. that they don't wan't to do. (or maybe
HE gave secrets to the public that shop owners want kept a secret?)There is no dead head system in the HPO system... Where do you think the oil goes after the injector fires? Pull a valve cover one day and let the truck run... See the oil coming out of the spouts... then that runs back to the pan, gets pumped back thru the oil cooler, and thru the filter and up to the HPO res... over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again...
I am going to take some pics of the HPOP reservior since mine is off to explain why a cleanout ever 50 to 100000 is not a bad idea this thing is a sump oil fills from the top and sludge and trash can build up inside it once inside it if it is heavier than oil it falls into this sump and cannot get back out I'll take pics to illustrate but changing the oil every time no way waste of time!
I would like to see some of the people who call Bill Hewitt names do it to his face
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I would like to see some of the people who call Bill Hewitt names do it to his face
....I would have no issues laughing at him to his face...
This is the same guy who thinks by adding up all the numbers on his intake, superchips, exhaust, and nitrous he has a 600hp Excursion on stock injectors...
As I said... Laughing stock of the powerstroke guys...
#34
08-16-2010, 01:59 PM
#36
08-16-2010, 02:28 PM
hey guys me again, likin' the look of schaffers 7000 enjoy all the input, and almost forgot to ask, i'ma Napa gold guy when it comes to oil filters, think the'yre made by WIX, thought about converting to Fleetguard heard good things about them, and thats not taking anything away from Napa gold, the diesel ones have always held up. But are all the fleetguards made equally, or do I gotta pay a bajillion dollars for some premo grade filter, the one I was looking at I think are like in the 12 to 15 dollar range. thanks again for all the input.
#37
08-16-2010, 05:24 PM
Diesel Wrench
hey guys me again, likin' the look of schaffers 7000 enjoy all the input, and almost forgot to ask, i'ma Napa gold guy when it comes to oil filters, think the'yre made by WIX, thought about converting to Fleetguard heard good things about them, and thats not taking anything away from Napa gold, the diesel ones have always held up. But are all the fleetguards made equally, or do I gotta pay a bajillion dollars for some premo grade filter, the one I was looking at I think are like in the 12 to 15 dollar range. thanks again for all the input.
#38
08-16-2010, 05:35 PM
Banned
I don't know you or bill personally but in a cage match my money is on Bill
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What my major concern is should I be able to get 8 to 10 k out of a 120.00 amsoil oil change ? without any issues I have no desire to push beyond that this motor and its injectors and hpop will not tolerate dirty or wasted oil ...ask me how I know pushing rotella into the 8 to 12 k range killed my hpop and injectors orings internally if I decide to go back to rotella i would do 4,000 k no more ever ...
I did buy a high bypass amsoil kit have yet to put it on until my truck is running right ...and I do an oil sample with current 21.00 amsoil filter at 4,000 miles I have a 1000 to go before I do that..
I just want whats best for my truck year round and is not going to kill my wallet or have me laying under truck ever 3 to 4 k
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What my major concern is should I be able to get 8 to 10 k out of a 120.00 amsoil oil change ? without any issues I have no desire to push beyond that this motor and its injectors and hpop will not tolerate dirty or wasted oil ...ask me how I know pushing rotella into the 8 to 12 k range killed my hpop and injectors orings internally if I decide to go back to rotella i would do 4,000 k no more ever ...
I did buy a high bypass amsoil kit have yet to put it on until my truck is running right ...and I do an oil sample with current 21.00 amsoil filter at 4,000 miles I have a 1000 to go before I do that..
I just want whats best for my truck year round and is not going to kill my wallet or have me laying under truck ever 3 to 4 k
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#39
08-16-2010, 05:57 PM
Diesel Wrench
They dont do it because it is not nessasary to waste a customers time doing it...
There is no dead head system in the HPO system... Where do you think the oil goes after the injector fires? Pull a valve cover one day and let the truck run... See the oil coming out of the spouts... (are you talking about the oil diverters? Rustin)then that runs back to the pan, gets pumped back thru the oil cooler, and thru the filter and up to the HPO res... over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again...
So you think I have not seen the inside of a powerstroke? I have a habit of investigating. before I actually do something. that is why I posted. I fully belive what I Post till somebody can interject intelligently. you can do better with honey then vinegar. like I stated before. "I have done the same HPOP procedure my self on many 7.3l powerstrokes. and they have never had the procedure done to them. I saw the same thick black used oil that he has showed. My own power-stoke is done regularly. the oil looks much improved. I have seen on my own truck one of the injector codes cleared and has yet to return. Have you tried this? It sounds like to me IMO allot of shops will not do his procedures because it adds time, and labor."
Change your oil every 3-5k (I believe I do. Rustin)and you will never have an issue with "sludge"(and I never will. Rustin) build up in the bottom of the HPO res... (I Still see thick well used oil on vehicles that have never had it done. Rustin) When I swapped HPO res on this motor I am running now (140k, unknown service history) there was nothing more then 2 year old oil in the res... When I tore down my first motor with 120k on it there was nothing more then a little bit of bearing flake in one corner... Your not removing "sludge" by "changing" the HPO...
I would have no issues laughing at him to his face...
I am quite sure you would.
This is the same guy who thinks by adding up all the numbers on his intake, superchips, exhaust, and nitrous he has a 600hp Excursion on stock injectors...
(Have you ever seen him race? I have. I don't think he is kidding.)
As I said... Laughing stock of the powerstroke guys...
There is no dead head system in the HPO system... Where do you think the oil goes after the injector fires? Pull a valve cover one day and let the truck run... See the oil coming out of the spouts... (are you talking about the oil diverters? Rustin)then that runs back to the pan, gets pumped back thru the oil cooler, and thru the filter and up to the HPO res... over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again...
So you think I have not seen the inside of a powerstroke? I have a habit of investigating. before I actually do something. that is why I posted. I fully belive what I Post till somebody can interject intelligently. you can do better with honey then vinegar. like I stated before. "I have done the same HPOP procedure my self on many 7.3l powerstrokes. and they have never had the procedure done to them. I saw the same thick black used oil that he has showed. My own power-stoke is done regularly. the oil looks much improved. I have seen on my own truck one of the injector codes cleared and has yet to return. Have you tried this? It sounds like to me IMO allot of shops will not do his procedures because it adds time, and labor."
Change your oil every 3-5k (I believe I do. Rustin)and you will never have an issue with "sludge"(and I never will. Rustin) build up in the bottom of the HPO res... (I Still see thick well used oil on vehicles that have never had it done. Rustin) When I swapped HPO res on this motor I am running now (140k, unknown service history) there was nothing more then 2 year old oil in the res... When I tore down my first motor with 120k on it there was nothing more then a little bit of bearing flake in one corner... Your not removing "sludge" by "changing" the HPO...
I would have no issues laughing at him to his face...
I am quite sure you would.This is the same guy who thinks by adding up all the numbers on his intake, superchips, exhaust, and nitrous he has a 600hp Excursion on stock injectors...
(Have you ever seen him race? I have. I don't think he is kidding.)
As I said... Laughing stock of the powerstroke guys...
Last edited by Rustin; 08-16-2010 at 06:01 PM.
#40
08-16-2010, 06:38 PM
Diesel Bomber
(your the only one that has said that.) WOW. Your actually that confident. Please continue? What makes you better then him? I would like to know? Seriously? No Jokes. I mean if I am getting bad info from Bill then Why is he still on the internet? Why is he busy to his eyeballs in work? why has nobody posted their own videos like him? why does he have repeat customers? CSIPD are you OK? this HPOP is obviously an opinion thing. you all can do it or not. I will continue to do it because I like my injectors. I am the only one doing the oil change not jiffy lube.
Rustin... You my friend have no idea how the world works... You think because it is posted on the internet then it must be true.
Go watch his three part powerstroke performance "unit" and tell me if you think he is making 525 hp on a stock turbo, stock HPOS, Stock injectors and with a superchips tuner...
Come on man, wake up.
My wife changes the oil on her Excursion, big deal, you want an award? There is fresh clean oil sent to the HPO Res with every revolution of the motor. How do you think the HPOS stays full? Thats right, you still think its a closed loop system...
http://www.aeswave.com/images/Produc...20sample73.pdf
Would ya look at that... hummm its not...
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