To answer your questions.

Yes I had one of the 1st F5's out. I even had one of the F5's with the rotary **** on it till they upgraded me because I was having issues with it. Yes my tunes where 2 years old. But wouldn't you think if a big change in the tunes was made and something bad was discovered it would have been fixed for everyone?

What pisses me off about Jody is that he wont just say yes he had issues with some tunes but are fixed now. No even when he called me and we talked about it he never would come out and just say there was issues with them tunes. All he would say is he has changed thousands of parameters since then.

Not getting paid here. Just want everyone to be aware that there are better products out there and people that will be more honest with you.

I do take responsibility for my motor. I was dumb enough to keep running DP Tuner even after I asked about injector noise in the different tunes and Jody said it was normal. Hell I didnt know any better back then I trusted my tuner until I started to learn more and found out that its not a good thing.

So you can say what you want. I dont know what Joes issue is with his motor... But I am 95% sure what happened to mine.

 

If you know of an Ifart on some other website you go to it certainly isn't me.
I have never torn into the internals of a motor because of all the vehicles I've owned the need has never presented itself. I do all the maintenance on my own like change oil, flush coolant, replace worn out parts, brake work, so on.
This seems like it was a bad place to jump in being the new guy here but I see a lot of flaws in that survey and think it holds about zero value. It seems to me that any time you modify your truck for more power you are taking the risk into your own hands. so if it breaks, you only have yourself to blame. You said "Please find a post when I said that any truck that blows running DP is because of DP..." and even though you haven't directly said that DP Tuners are at fault you continue to rely on the survey and the graphs and blame timing for the failures, so indirectly you are blaming DP Tuners. Are those graphs something you derived or did you find them somewhere else? I don't believe I saw that mentioned in this post.
"big stroker" if you are 95% sure what happened to your motor do you mind saying it? You mentioned cracked heads and pistons before which would seem to be a heat related failure.

 

Cracked pistons and heads can also be cause by to much timing and CP.

I know its my word but I can assure you the truck had never been over heated in the over 100k that I put on it. And I would think that if it was a heat related issue and was ever over heated b4 I owned it the problems would have arose b4 i hit over 100k in the drivers seat.

You can see on the pistons were fuel was out of the bowl and almost to the cylinder walls. There is nothing else bad on the truck that would have cause to much timing. All the injectors where fine when where flow benched and spec'ed after the tare down and all the censors are still being used on the new motor. Only thing that could have changed the timing of my motor was the tuning.

I'm not saying it was all the tuning that caused the issues but it sure didn't help. And I'm not saying it caused all the motors to fail in the survey because that would be untrue as well. Just think its funny how a lot of the trucks where running DP Tuner in that survey and how many weren't

 

Big Stroker, you're entitled to your opinion on Jody as is everyone. Joe is as well. But to even think that you can justify anything at all about that stupid survey, everytime Jody or DP is brought up is really ignorant. You two are obviously biased and will read into that survey opinionated and that is completely unfair. It's been debated on every damned powerstroke forum there is and most of the places have their little Jody hate clubs. Take your eyes off the one stupid slide about how many trucks were ruinning what tuner and pay attention to many of the comments. You'll see that many have stated other items and practices as the culprit and then many others have no clue. Look past the simplicity and pay attention to the details and not the masses swarming against Jody and you'll see that survey has no real conmclusion other than the opinionated one that the haters are forming.

Joe, I won't argue with you. You make everything that ever goes wrong with your truck personal with anyone else that had anything to do with it other than yourself. You are perfect and never make mistakes. You know all. So much that you've managed to be banned at one time or another from every forum that you are not a moderator of. It's really pathetic that you must have grown up with a silver spoon in your mouth and were taught these things. You don't help the community at all with your personal stabbings and opinions but yet you'll accuse me of "making it personal". Enough on you.

To the OP, pay attention to all the chip posts out there on more boards than this one alone. You'll find the Jody haters and then there are the unbiased people that have tried a few and know that there really isn't a miracle in any one tuner's capabilities. You'll not get a perfect answer from anyone. Take what you get here and elsewhere and make a decision based off the combined information you have gathered. There is not one person on any of these boards who is the perfect know it all on everything.


I ask a question and Diane is quick to answer. Jody doesn't but I'd assume he has other ventures going on too. Just like every other vendor there is. Some are able to spend more time on the boards. I do agree that Jody should be more active but I don't know the whole story on his life. Bottom line, I do get an answer from DP-Tuners in one way or another.

I'm not a DP nutswinger as the PSD community has seemed to coin as a common term. I do run their F5 and have enjoyed it's performance for 2 years and many trips. I wish I had the F6 so I could do the internet thing with their tunes though.

I'm not going to continue to argue and quote because i KNOW for a fact that there is NOBODY (even Jody) that could change certain opinions on the matter (NO MATTER WHAT MAY BE SAID).

Dave

Oh, and I go by the same name on every site other than one where it was already taken. My opinion stays the same, don't take one person's opinion.

 

I had a bunch of stuff typed out, but its better for a PM, so I will send you one...

My opinion has changed over the years... With experance comes experance, if you do not change your opinions after experances, then you have not learned anything.

I too called Jody. And he called me... Same story... "there is nothing wrong with your tunes" and then to "There was nothing wrong with your tunes"

You act as if I am in some minority club... This is just not true...

I simply hope Jody has ajusted his tuning and this whole thing can go away, but as of yet its the same old song and dance... Nothing is wrong.

 

That would be my fault! There is an order form on the website for Analytune that I completed before going to Missouri to be with my sister in January. Since we got back from her funeral around January 20th, we've been playing catch-up with orders, e-mails, post, and PMs. The very next week, we found out about my dad, and having just returned from his funeral, updating the website hasn't been on my list of Things to Do.

I'll get the website updated as soon as I can, though. I'm sure now that we're sponsors, we'll be talking about all of our products so people aren't wondering what the heck you're talking about.

 

WELCOME!!!!


Corey,

You guys have been thru alot in the last few months, dont know how you have done it and kept a busness running at all!!!

 

We owe everything to our customers -- seriously. They've been amazingly understanding and supportive since Renee' was first diagnosed with cancer on December 9 and business hasn't slowed a bit.

My cousins are keeping me up to date on Facebook at this very moment about my grandma's condition. Three relatives over the course of eight weeks... If these things really do happen in threes, I'll be glad when this is over and we're all back home so we can REALLY start 2010.

I imagine we're headed back to Missouri this weekend or early next week. Bill, however, will be in Utah Sunday through Saturday, so it looks like this road trip will just be the boys and me.

Sorry for the derail!

 

pretty sure most everyone in this thread may be retarded... except Corey...well, and me ....

does it ever get tiring to talk about? i know i got tired, i havent been around for months...

same ****, different day

 

FWIW, I was running Jodys 80E on my old TS chip(4 years ago), before the F5 was even available. When I stepped up the F5, the tunes were the same(about 3 years ago). It's an 01 PMR engine that lives in the 80E tune. Never a lower setting, only goes up when I feel like wasting fuel.