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#32
That is the exact same thing every had been saying to us when we say that tune could be an issue in that survey.
The truth is no one knows.
but it is kinda odd if you look at that data and see that 30 or 49 engines were running DP Tuner.
#33
That survey doesn't seem to hold much water in my mind. Only 49 responses makes for a very statistically poor survey. The data presented just doesn't seem to add up.
I wanted to add: How many of these trucks were produced? Tens of thousands? 49 responses doesn't even come close to having any statistical validity no matter how you cut the cake.
"big stroker"- you are quick to call "camojeeper@gmail.com" out for not having assessed the blown motors. Have you assessed each of the motors? Are you a certified mechanic who is qualified to do a failure analysis?
I wanted to add: How many of these trucks were produced? Tens of thousands? 49 responses doesn't even come close to having any statistical validity no matter how you cut the cake.
"big stroker"- you are quick to call "camojeeper@gmail.com" out for not having assessed the blown motors. Have you assessed each of the motors? Are you a certified mechanic who is qualified to do a failure analysis?
Last edited by Ifart; 02-23-2010 at 02:26 PM.
#34
How do you know that 80% of the motors in that survey were not tuning related? Is this coming from your "well edgmecated" mind or someone elses???
Everyone hates the graphs, but I am going to bust them out again... Give me a few...
#35
LOL... You do what ever you think you need to Steve.
How do you know that 80% of the motors in that survey were not tuning related? Is this coming from your "well edgmecated" mind or someone elses???
The survey was open on 6 differant forums for about 5 months, anyone that wanted to could fill one out. It would be great if 100 or more people filled it out, but you cant make them. Same thing happened when Dennis at ITP did his survey... far to many DP motors to continue...
Everyone hates the graphs, but I am going to bust them out again... Give me a few...
How do you know that 80% of the motors in that survey were not tuning related? Is this coming from your "well edgmecated" mind or someone elses???
The survey was open on 6 differant forums for about 5 months, anyone that wanted to could fill one out. It would be great if 100 or more people filled it out, but you cant make them. Same thing happened when Dennis at ITP did his survey... far to many DP motors to continue...
Everyone hates the graphs, but I am going to bust them out again... Give me a few...
#36
So users from 5 forums, with multiple thousands of users, could only contribute 49 failures. Still no statistical validity. Far too small of a sample size. And it sounds like this has been done once before without success, so why do it again? What do you mean by "far to many DP motors to continue..."? If you look at the data from your survey, stock injectors and automatic transmissions are destroying motors. 82% of the failed motors also had cold air intakes, I thought cold air intakes were supposed to be good for the engine?
What do you put in a truck that changes EVERYTHING about the way the truck runs?
#37
Bad fuel? Improper oil? Dirty air filter? Many things other than a power chip can affect the performance of the motor. 49 failures out of many thousands ain't worth the paper its written on amigo. How many power chipped trucks are there on the road that haven't had engine failure? I'd bet you a handsome sum of money its a lot more than 49. And since you didn't answer my questions should I write them again or can I assume your lack of response means you have no good answer to provide?
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#39
So users from 5 forums, with multiple thousands of users, could only contribute 49 failures. Still no statistical validity. Far too small of a sample size. And it sounds like this has been done once before without success, so why do it again? What do you mean by "far to many DP motors to continue..."? If you look at the data from your survey, stock injectors and automatic transmissions are destroying motors. 82% of the failed motors also had cold air intakes, I thought cold air intakes were supposed to be good for the engine?
... Ok...
85-90% of the 7.3's out there are automatics...
80% of the time one of the first mods people do is a cold air intake...
Do you understand why things like that are not really relivent?
Bad fuel? Improper oil? Dirty air filter? Many things other than a power chip can affect the performance of the motor. 49 failures out of many thousands ain't worth the paper its written on amigo. How many power chipped trucks are there on the road that haven't had engine failure? I'd bet you a handsome sum of money its a lot more than 49. And since you didn't answer my questions should I write them again or can I assume your lack of response means you have no good answer to provide?
No one has ever said there is not more then 49 failures, but if thats all you can get thats all you can get...
Last edited by CSIPSD; 02-23-2010 at 03:04 PM.