2010 terrible mpg
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#23
I agree
I loved my 7.3. It came time to upgrade so I purchased an 09 F250 Crew Lariat with the 6.4. Drop dead gorgeous truck. Two tone Blue/tan. Rides way better than my 2000. Interior is beautiful. Re-design of the F250 was a home run. Motor is smooth, quiet and quick. Then comes the mileage. 10-12 in town, maybe sneak up to 13-14 on the highway. Please don't answer back with "Power"...or "you bought a puller, didn't you?". By any standards this is unacceptable and really kills what is an otherwise awesome machine. The truck is good enough that i will live with the mileage. But constantly filling up more frequently than one should is getting pricey and annoying.
"Just remove the DPF, and tune it !!!"
Correct me if i'm wrong...I thought a law was passed years ago that prohibited dealers from refusing warranty simply because a vehicle had been modified. I thought they had to prove that the particular mod was directly related to the failure before they could refuse warranty.
That being said...I am pretty sure the DPF is different. It is an EPA mandate and Illegal to remove. It may be the only mod that the dealer can refuse warranty...no questions asked?
"Just put it back on when you take it in".
Thats fine and this may be the direction I go. What concerns me is the intended use of these trucks. I would say that most of us spend a fair amount of time pulling on the open road. I'm on the interstate 600 miles from home, or on vacation, etc, and my truck goes down. Replacing the DPF on the road away from home so i can get it towed into a dealer for service work seems unrealistic. I might anyway as the improvement seems huge. Just replacing the DPF might not always be possible before one 's truck goes into the dealer.
"Just remove the DPF, and tune it !!!"
Correct me if i'm wrong...I thought a law was passed years ago that prohibited dealers from refusing warranty simply because a vehicle had been modified. I thought they had to prove that the particular mod was directly related to the failure before they could refuse warranty.
That being said...I am pretty sure the DPF is different. It is an EPA mandate and Illegal to remove. It may be the only mod that the dealer can refuse warranty...no questions asked?
"Just put it back on when you take it in".
Thats fine and this may be the direction I go. What concerns me is the intended use of these trucks. I would say that most of us spend a fair amount of time pulling on the open road. I'm on the interstate 600 miles from home, or on vacation, etc, and my truck goes down. Replacing the DPF on the road away from home so i can get it towed into a dealer for service work seems unrealistic. I might anyway as the improvement seems huge. Just replacing the DPF might not always be possible before one 's truck goes into the dealer.
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I loved my 7.3. It came time to upgrade so I purchased an 09 F250 Crew Lariat with the 6.4. Drop dead gorgeous truck. Two tone Blue/tan. Rides way better than my 2000. Interior is beautiful. Re-design of the F250 was a home run. Motor is smooth, quiet and quick. Then comes the mileage. 10-12 in town, maybe sneak up to 13-14 on the highway. Please don't answer back with "Power"...or "you bought a puller, didn't you?". By any standards this is unacceptable and really kills what is an otherwise awesome machine. The truck is good enough that i will live with the mileage. But constantly filling up more frequently than one should is getting pricey and annoying.
"Just remove the DPF, and tune it !!!"
Correct me if i'm wrong...I thought a law was passed years ago that prohibited dealers from refusing warranty simply because a vehicle had been modified. I thought they had to prove that the particular mod was directly related to the failure before they could refuse warranty.
That being said...I am pretty sure the DPF is different. It is an EPA mandate and Illegal to remove. It may be the only mod that the dealer can refuse warranty...no questions asked?
"Just put it back on when you take it in".
Thats fine and this may be the direction I go. What concerns me is the intended use of these trucks. I would say that most of us spend a fair amount of time pulling on the open road. I'm on the interstate 600 miles from home, or on vacation, etc, and my truck goes down. Replacing the DPF on the road away from home so i can get it towed into a dealer for service work seems unrealistic. I might anyway as the improvement seems huge. Just replacing the DPF might not always be possible before one 's truck goes into the dealer.
"Just remove the DPF, and tune it !!!"
Correct me if i'm wrong...I thought a law was passed years ago that prohibited dealers from refusing warranty simply because a vehicle had been modified. I thought they had to prove that the particular mod was directly related to the failure before they could refuse warranty.
That being said...I am pretty sure the DPF is different. It is an EPA mandate and Illegal to remove. It may be the only mod that the dealer can refuse warranty...no questions asked?
"Just put it back on when you take it in".
Thats fine and this may be the direction I go. What concerns me is the intended use of these trucks. I would say that most of us spend a fair amount of time pulling on the open road. I'm on the interstate 600 miles from home, or on vacation, etc, and my truck goes down. Replacing the DPF on the road away from home so i can get it towed into a dealer for service work seems unrealistic. I might anyway as the improvement seems huge. Just replacing the DPF might not always be possible before one 's truck goes into the dealer.
This is a old race car tuner trick thats done with Mustangs and other stockers. Just hollow out the cat with a big drill bit.
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#26
If you hollow out the DPF, your trurk will go to limp mode !!! You'll lose power & you'll have to go to the dealer & DISH-OUT lots of $$$
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#28
I dont see a way around it, even if you hollowed the DPF out, and you did have to take the truck to the dealer under warranty, you would have to put it back to stock tune
and then the truck wont run right anyway according to Gunman41mag.
I guess the only way this would work is for people with no warranty and are worried about not having the DPF in place. If I had no warranty to worry about, I would hollow it out and get a tuner. Diesel engines are exempt from emission testing in the state I live in.
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#29
I dont see a way around it, even if you hollowed the DPF out, and you did have to take the truck to the dealer under warranty, you would have to put it back to stock tune
and then the truck wont run right anyway according to Gunman41mag.
I guess the only way this would work is for people with no warranty and are worried about not having the DPF in place. If I had no warranty to worry about, I would hollow it out and get a tuner. Diesel engines are exempt from emission testing in the state I live in.
and then the truck wont run right anyway according to Gunman41mag.
I guess the only way this would work is for people with no warranty and are worried about not having the DPF in place. If I had no warranty to worry about, I would hollow it out and get a tuner. Diesel engines are exempt from emission testing in the state I live in.
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