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Old 01-18-2009, 08:16 PM
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taker? you support the people that raped,murdered and killed the original owners of this nation.

alot of my family was either in or still is in the military. the military is a choice. you chose to serve a country that was stolen.

taker.. obviously you can't read well
"i vote, i pay my taxes,i pay my parking tickets, i pay my speeding tickets, i obey the law."

my 1st job out side of being self employed and i get laid off for the rest of the winter as they always do and i'm the taker?
i have been a lobsterman my whole life. i'm the guy out in the freezing cold with ice hanging off me trying to make a buck.

you are sucking up our tax money, your health insurance, your dental insurance, your monthly pay check comes from people like us. where do you think the money comes from?

i don't have any insurance.... i have to work for what i have...
the only one here with poor excuses is you and your **** poor argument.

people like you are the reasion my grandfarthers told me not to join the military.
that and on one side of the family i'm the only boy left to carry on our last name.
 
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bow2no1
well if you wanna take a poll, people like me aren't the ones.. killing, stabbing,shooting,stealing,raping..

this is America... poor,rich both get called to duty.
i don't think an honest hard working american should sacrifice time out of his like to feed family. the man the people work for what they have and should not be taken away from them!

there are plenty of people collecting unemployment,welfare,disability,college,trust fund babies, kids 18+ still in high school, just graduated and don't have a family to support.

YES, i want unemployed people on a jury for me! I just got laid off. I'm unemployed until April. does that mean I'm not capable of making a rational decision?

what are you implying buy saying "unemployed people" what do you mean?
are you stereotyping that people with no job are not able to make a rational decision on their own or not up to par with the rest of society?


if i had the option i would claim independence from the united states!
i hate voting, i'm sick of hearing the politics!
news flash 1 vote does not make a difference!
i voted and Obama is still gonna be prez. oh Great.....whooie.....hurray
i'm glad i wasted my time at the polls...

oh yeah, i know why i voted. to shut those aholes up that say "you don't vote so you can't say nothin"
i voted now you have to listin.

i vote, i pay my taxes,i pay my parking tickest, i pay my speeding tickets, i obay the law.
if i don't want to go to jury duty tuff ****
I agree 10000% - MOST of us on here bust our a$$es all week to make sure our families have food on the table and a roof over their heads.
In december '08 the number of unemployed increased by 632,000 to 11.1 million people so that means there is alot of people out there that really need the money. Alot of them are probably collecting unemployment, not because they want to but HAVE to and probably never have before, more than likely they are sitting at home because there are no jobs out there for them to get.
People like you that are laid off right now and alot of the others that didn't just get laid off are probably MORE 'up to par' because we make up most of the workforce in this country.
Claiming independence from the country sounds better and better all the time. I hate voting too, thats wh I'm one of the "losers" that doesn't. This is supposed to be a free country so we CAN have the right to do that kind of thing.
There are alot of ingnorant bastards out there that don't want to work for an honest living. I guess its easier for them to leech off the rest of the working class folks by stealing and killing, then get a court appointed lawyer that WE pay for to get a trial by jury, that WE pay for, and then go to prison so WE can pay for them again. All of these are 'rights' but so is owning a gun, which I WILL use, to shoot the scum if they try to steal from me or hurt my family. Maybe that makes me a redneck or somethin but that is also my right. It just kills me that people that do all this illegal $hit get the rest of the honest country to pay for their 'rights'.

Originally Posted by Ramprat
I'm a American by birth & one who does not make **** poor excuses trying to get out of ones civic duty and personal responsibility.

Not to mention one that spent 20 years in the service to our country and 7 years to my adopted community.

What have you done to improve America other than be a taker??
I appreciate you serving for the coutry for 20 years and keeping it free so we can continue to do this and everything else we do everyday but the military is not the only thing that keeps this country what it is. I never served because that is my right, again I thank you for that. Just because an american don't serve doesn't mean we are not doing anything to improve america. You serve to keep america free so we can work and pay taxes so you can still get your check from the military. If the military stops fighting for our rights we won't be free for long, if the rest of us stop working (which means no more taxes paid) america won't have enough $ for a military. "POOR" excuses is exactly what I'm using, I took a 50% pay cut so I could keep my job and not become one of the 11.1 million people in this country that are unemployed and can't find a job.
 
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:39 PM
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For the record, I am would not mind doing a couple short trials per month. But I am trying to be proactive, and make sure that I do not get stuck on a grand jury or on a trial that I will be out of work for a week or more out of a month. Also, a year and a half ago, I separated my shoulder while working. When you have a separated shoulder, the fix is to walk around for 6 weeks with your arm in a sling. The type of separation that I had tore ALL of the ligaments holding my shoulder together. I couldn't even lift my 6 month old son with my other arm for 4 weeks due to the strain that it caused my bad shoulder for fear that I would hurt it worse and cause permanent damage. In other words, I couldn't do a damn thing for a month and a half and couldn't do much for a couple more weeks after that. Oh, plus hospital bills.
On my truck 1. I did my own work on my exhaust= really cheap. 2. My CAI came from ebay for $40 shipped to my door with my cheap install. 3. The gauges were $300 and I installed myself and they help me make sure that when I am pulling my trailers for work, nothing is out of the norm (kind of a good thing when you don't have much money and can't afford repairing a trans or motor) 4. debadging was done by me too so there you go 5. I got the Smarty for $600 used (other than the smarty, nothing really cost much, and I got that before I was injured and had a meager savings.
Now I am trying to get ahead, so someday in the near future I can do things like this and not worry about paying my house payment after sitting on a jury for a week.
I don't vote mainly because I don't feel that I can make an informed enough decision to make me feel good about my vote. I don't want to go in and just start checking boxes because "I am registered". If you don't like it, tough.
Ramprat, I have noticed that every post you have made gives zero advice and seems to only be there because you feel that you are superior to everyone due to some ego maniacal delusions. Again, just my opinions, just as everyone of your post prove to be. Just opinions.
Thank you and Good night.
 
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bow2no1
taker? you support the people that raped,murdered and killed the original owners of this nation.
And who was the "original" "owners" of America, it sure was not the Indians who came and raped, murdered and killed the people before them.

Show me a country that has not been fought over, where you have winners and losers, where one people are superior to another in combat.

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Originally Posted by jstange2
Ramprat, I have noticed that every post you have made gives zero advice and seems to only be there because you feel that you are superior to everyone due to some ego maniacal delusions. Again, just my opinions, just as everyone of your post prove to be. Just opinions.
Thank you and Good night.
Oops, I forgot to take my meds again

I can't give advice, I'm not a newspaper colominst who tells people how to love and how to think.
 

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Old 01-18-2009, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramprat
And who was the "original" "owners" of America, it sure was not the Indians who came and raped, murdered and killed the people before them.

Show me a country that has not been fought over, where you have winners and losers, where one people are superior to another in combat.
i like how you pick and choose what part you wish to comment on..
get educated.... native Americans only fought with other native Americans.
they got here from a little thing called "land bridge" before the continents separated..

native Americans where the 1st settlers here.
hows your health insurance holdin up that us workin folk pay for?
got any more ignorant comments?

Originally Posted by jstange2
Ramprat, I have noticed that every post you have made gives zero advice and seems to only be there because you feel that you are superior to everyone due to some ego maniacal delusions. Again, just my opinions, just as everyone of your post prove to be. Just opinions.
Thank you and Good night.
it's a superiority complex

generally people with self esteem issues get it
from being abused as a child,sexually,physically,mentally or being pushed around or beaten up at school.

then they move one to martial arts or military something to boost their esteem (just using examples)

my boss has it
he's a little feeble guy who talks down to everyone like he knows everything.
then when he screws it up he lies his way out of it.
when he corned in an argument he starts stuttering, kinda pathetic really
he's a draft dodger too! there is no honor in that
 

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Old 01-18-2009, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bow2no1
i like how you pick and choose what part you wish to comment on..
get educated.... native Americans only fought with other native Americans.
they got here from a little thing called "land bridge" before the continents separated..

native Americans where the 1st settlers here.
Does not matter, they lost and are a defeated people, some choose to live in the past and some have the ability to come out and be a productive member of society and some are warriors.


Originally Posted by bow2no1
hows your health insurance holdin up that us workin folk pay for?
Ahhh, calling me ignorant now... I work 2 jobs along with my little "retirement" but I do go to the VA for what you would call "free" healthcare as I've been judged disabled by the VA's medical board due to service connected injuries.


Originally Posted by bow2no1
got any more ignorant comments?
I'm not the one full of ASSumptions and ignorance

Originally Posted by bow2no1
it's a superiority complex

generally people with self esteem issues get it
from being abused as a child,sexually,physically,mentally or being pushed around or beaten up at school.

then they move one to martial arts or military something to boost their esteem (just using examples)

my boss has it
he's a little feeble guy who talks down to everyone like he knows everything.
then when he screws it up he lies his way out of it.
when he corned in an argument he starts stuttering, kinda pathetic really
he's a draft dodger too! there is no honor in that
ROTFLMAO, keep up the great work, ya have me ROTFLMAO with your ignorant ASSumptions
 
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:02 PM
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Ramprat, curious what you thought of the rest of my previous post. I would gladly accept your opinions if you didn't try to push your thoughts down everybody else's throats. I respect people that say their piece respectfully, but what you do is a whole other ball game. Seriously, what is your deal in general?

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Oh, and it doesn't matter to me what others think of me. I am who I am and my family loves me no matter what. That is the only real thing that matters to me.
 

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Alright guys this is starting to get a little heated.
I will have to say though, Ramprat you are going over the line a little from the word go. Some of the things you have said are very insulting and there is no call for that. There is no reason why this can't be discussed in a civilized manner and we all move on.

If need be, I can move this thread and you can discuss further there.
 
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Thanks MRaynor, but I don't think there is any need for the R rating. I think this keeps it calmer? If that's posible.
 
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Originally Posted by Ramprat
Does not matter, they lost and are a defeated people, some choose to live in the past and some have the ability to come out and be a productive member of society and some are warriors.

so if i come to your house rape and kill you wife and family..
that's means you should just get over it and not dwell on the past?

when we go to court, you going to say "it's OK judge it's all done and said he's free to go"



Ahhh, calling me ignorant now... I work 2 jobs along with my little "retirement" but I do go to the VA for what you would call "free" health care as I've been judged disabled by the VA's medical board due to service connected injuries.

yes you are ignorant. you live in America and clearly don't know your american history.
you don't sound like Any respectful american.

so now your another vet, collecting disability and working? sounds like working the system to me. gees you sound real "disabled" if you can work.

why don't you sit home on your *** so unemployed real Americans can have a job?




I'm not the one full of Assumptions and ignorance
yeah you are


ROTFLMAO, keep up the great work, ya have me ROTFLMAO with your ignorant Assumptions
i think your just an other perpella head using Internet slang.
i notice you didn't deny having self esteem issues
 

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