"The" 2 Stroke Oil Thread
#222
That can be answered with a clear no.
2-stroke oil burns actuallly better than Diesel. You don't have to fear any soot, it is designed to be burned completely.
Just make sure to pour in 2-stroke oil first. It will mix up with the Diesel real quick.
The interesting thing is, that the little smoke I had under throttle is gone. Even idle burn is much better.
Before 2-stroke oil I was able to trace soot in the snow. It's all gone.
This is verifiable with the yearly safety emission inspection and 56% better emission values.
If you find soot in the EGR, it is already there- caused by the EGR itself.
2-stroke oil burns actuallly better than Diesel. You don't have to fear any soot, it is designed to be burned completely.
Just make sure to pour in 2-stroke oil first. It will mix up with the Diesel real quick.
The interesting thing is, that the little smoke I had under throttle is gone. Even idle burn is much better.
Before 2-stroke oil I was able to trace soot in the snow. It's all gone.
This is verifiable with the yearly safety emission inspection and 56% better emission values.
If you find soot in the EGR, it is already there- caused by the EGR itself.
Last edited by Deezel Stink3r; 07-04-2010 at 12:35 PM.
#223
OK, I've searched this thread quickly, and I couldn't find a yea/nay question or answer if 2-stroke is safe for the Common Rail Cummins' CP3 pump. Is it? Will temps of -40F to -60F (Interior Alaska winter temps) react any differently with 2-stroke? I would assume that the dilution level of 2-stroke into this much fuel isn't enough to thicken it even at super-cold temps and effect any other fuel mods (Airdog, Arson III, etc...). But that's just an assumption, and I wanna make sure that I'm not going to make an "***" outa "u", and "umption". Any info, good or bad, on the Common Rail would be helpful. I hear so many horror stories about VP-44's burnin' up that I can see why the Gen. II guys would wanna use it. How about water/meth injection, would it react negatively with that in any way? I wouldn't think so, but again.... an assumption. Thanks!
#224
Noth Pole, I absolutely agree with you.
The bad thing is, I can can only repeat the reliability for VP pumps.
There is no mil. testing for Common rail engines.All engines that are used in the german military are VP or inline pumps with the lower pressures.
It is a fact that 2 stroke does get kinda' goey at lower temperatures. It does solve itself in the diesel, but it takes longer to do so.
Water/meth as a power aid? I would avoid anything what could lead to possible condensation in this climate.
"Assuming" that you refill your tank with those deep outside temperatures with Diesel No.1 most of the year, an added lubrication does make sense.
To bad that there are no facts about it...
The bad thing is, I can can only repeat the reliability for VP pumps.
There is no mil. testing for Common rail engines.All engines that are used in the german military are VP or inline pumps with the lower pressures.
It is a fact that 2 stroke does get kinda' goey at lower temperatures. It does solve itself in the diesel, but it takes longer to do so.
Water/meth as a power aid? I would avoid anything what could lead to possible condensation in this climate.
"Assuming" that you refill your tank with those deep outside temperatures with Diesel No.1 most of the year, an added lubrication does make sense.
To bad that there are no facts about it...
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Rustin (07-05-2010)
#225
Well in my opinion. Go for it! The only problem I see is coking in the piston and exhaust valve after prolong use on some trucks. Me personally I use a little Marvel Mystery oil and get the same benefits, and not much extra coking. In the summer I don't use the Marvel, because I use my own brewed bio-diesel (B-50). I go through a few fuel filters, and the bio makes up for loss of lubricity in the diesel. If your happy with 2 stroke have at it! Especially if you dot mind the extra smoke. I know of a guy that will reuse his engine oil in his first gen.
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I might add that I use it sometimes as-well.
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I might add that I use it sometimes as-well.
Last edited by 12vcummins96; 07-06-2010 at 01:22 AM. Reason: not needed comment
#227
Common if your going to argue apples and oranges then stick to your guns! First you say there is no extra smoke then yous say it does smoke blueish if you add to much. Lets think about this? Of course if you add to much it will smoke! But here lies the problem if you have the dilutions correct. NOT ALL TRUCKS ARE CREATED EQUAL! Some will some wont. especially the older trucks, with the exception of some post 2007 trucks. You of all people should know this! how many Power-plants have you tore into? Go ahead and crack on me this is my last post on this thread. End of story! BTW thanks for the info, some was correct
#228
We talk about mixtures of 1:250 as a standard or down to 1: 150 or less in extreme.
Speaking in mixture values, this translates in 26gals of diesel between those values per quart of 2-stroke oil.
I think, I can trust our military combustion engine- as our chemical engineers.
They don't state proper mixture values for fun.
Thanks for sharing your superior knowledge with us, Rustin...
Speaking in mixture values, this translates in 26gals of diesel between those values per quart of 2-stroke oil.
I think, I can trust our military combustion engine- as our chemical engineers.
They don't state proper mixture values for fun.
Thanks for sharing your superior knowledge with us, Rustin...
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big bad diesel 416 (07-15-2010)
#229
Your Welcome!
As far as I know when I was in the U.S.Marines 1994-1998 as a Third Echelon Diesel Tech. We never had the need to add two stroke oil as an additive to our JP8 fuel unless they changed after I have left the service. No supplemental information has crossed my path on this, from any of my friends currently still serving. Do you have a copy of any military documents that support this? Not trying to be a jerk, but you kinda called me out.
Thank you!
As far as I know when I was in the U.S.Marines 1994-1998 as a Third Echelon Diesel Tech. We never had the need to add two stroke oil as an additive to our JP8 fuel unless they changed after I have left the service. No supplemental information has crossed my path on this, from any of my friends currently still serving. Do you have a copy of any military documents that support this? Not trying to be a jerk, but you kinda called me out.
Thank you!
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