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Turning Up A '93

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Old 04-07-2007, 03:59 PM
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The timing portion was a very short version. I wanna know how much i can safely advance my timing and how you measure how much you have advanced it.
 
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Old 04-07-2007, 04:57 PM
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well ive been running mine to where the pump almost touches the intake, and havent had any problems. dont worry about too much, just move it an 1/8 of an inch. if you dont like it move it back.
if you get some pod injectors you will find that an 1/8 of an inch isnt enough.

btw i think an 1/8 of an inch is about 18-18.5 deg.
 
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wyoranch
oh and guys, can i hit 400 hp w/a ve pump? Im just gonna turn it up a little for now, but eventually i want about 8-900 ft/lbs. so maybe 350-400hp. Am i gonna have to p-pump it or will the ve hold up?
its not hard to get the ve to put out 350 hp with some pods(prince of darkness)injectors. 3200 gov spring turn up the pump grind the fuel pin or buy a old smokey pin,and a 4" exh and you should be at 325-350. add a 60mm compressor and housing and you should be about 360-370 hp. add a larger turbo like a hx 40 or a s 300 and and bigger injectors and you will be above 400hp. but 400 hp is about it with the stock 12 mm pump some guys are running a 14 mm pump and hitting the 600hp range with twins.
my next step is a p-pump just not happy with the limitations of the ve pump.
 
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:20 PM
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You can get 450 out of a 12 mm head with custom injectors and twins, right?
 
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:35 PM
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Yeah you can get it out of a big single. KTA-Cummins(Brian Block) did 488 on a B1 and special race injectors. Diesel-central.com has a lot of info on the first gens. Brian is a member over there and is always willing to help out if he can awnser any questions for you.
 
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Old 04-08-2007, 11:36 PM
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over 400 is attainable with a big single and injectors. i wasnt thinking that wyo was wanting a big single though. and yes 450 can be had with twins. begle knows who KTA is, we all hang on the 1gen.org site.
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:32 AM
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Yeah I figured he did, not many first genners dont. Brian is a heck of a guy, I've met him a few times.

Andy
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:25 PM
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never met him, but he has been very helpfull with any ?s ive had.
 
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:37 PM
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Time to get an old subject goin again. To get the steel collar off the full power screw, Geno's says to take the whole assembly out of the back of the pump. What do you loosen up and take out, the jam-nut? How do you get that collar off without movin the screw? How far is a good place to go with the star-wheel? Thanks
 
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:12 PM
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I marked mine with paint and then backed it out and broke the collar off. Turned the screw in two turns further, and blew the trans.

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