yep its like (no sure just guessing) 6.5mm vs 7mm on the plunger bores. I guess a Dragon fire or Monster get bored out to like 9 or 10. The HO is a higher pressure and higher low end advance setup as well.

 

yeah, the HO has smaller plungers but higher pressures, youll see a high peak power out of an SO due to the fact that itll simply flow more fuel.

 

The aftermarket big pumps are the same HO vs SO though arent they?

 

whats the diff between PM3 and PM3 Comp???

 

the current PM3 is a 50 state legal fueling box, gains bout 140hp, just under 400 ft lbs on the dyno. with either box, you get a choice of remotes, prices vary on each remote as they get fancier.

The PM3 Comp is a competion tuned box that costs i think 50-100 bucks more then the PM3, making right at a gain of 200 hp on the dyno, i think marks rates it at 180 on his website. the comp is a very hard fueling box, especially if stacked with a timing box like the Ez or a smarty or some of the custom timing programs some people have. having ran the juice with attitude hot unlock and the quad adrenaline, neither compared to comp box and the way it fuels. withmy 150s, i cant turn it up pass level 6 with out wheel hoping bad and even on 6, i tore out my carrier bearing last night. my pyro goes up almost as fast as my rpms, it almost requires an aftermarket turbo to run the COMP.

for more details and exact specs and prices, check out www.tstproducts.com

The new box thats coming out is even more wild, its really gonna test the VP pretty good. ive been testing it since august and to be honest, i cant release the dyno numbers for it or the designation yet but its pretty cool. i dont have a release date but i hope to hear from mark about a release date soon. The delay has been caused by the hardware manufacture, testings pretty much wrapped up on it except for road testing which will be being done by me. we are taking our time on this one to make sure it doesnt cause any problems down the roads, there will be two versions of it as well. if youre in the market for a box, id go ahead and pick up a PM3 comp box if your rig can handle it, i know i did cause im not sure when the manufacture will get their part done. soon i hope

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im not sure, ive never paid any attention to the aftermarket HO pumps enough to be able to answer that.

 

So the PM3 comp is fueling only correct? so stacked with timing only boxes are yall seeing anymore HP on the dyno?

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"The PMCE (Competition) adds 180 HP and 450 lb-ft Torque (on level 9) for the standard engine. The HO (High Output) engine (2001-2002) already has 245 HP and the PMCE (Competition) does not make as much of a difference and adds 80HP and 310 lb-ft of Torque."

This is a quote from tst website on the faq page are the numbers for the HO a typo is it supposed to be 180 and 350 of is that right?

 

So dukeboy your saying mark is coming out with a whole new box and everything not just new programing?? Im also in full agreement the PM3 Comp fueling is crazy!!

 

Dukeboy, any updates on the new box?

 

Bosshogg, what do you think about the TST Comp/Edge EZ stack? I'm running same thing, and I'm still in the testing stages of the stack, not a whole lot of options around here for running at WOT to see what I can really do, but it def seems to me that with the Edge on, it fuels a lot harder and quicker down low, and then the TST comes on and just rips through the boost/rpms! I'm not sure how much of a difference there is with just the TST though, was wondering what you'd felt so far?