1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps

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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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anyone know the flow rate of the stock lift pump?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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4-7psi at idle, 0psi at WOT. If thats what you mean.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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that'd be pressure specs; not the flow rate... but i do have to ask why does flow rate really matter? in order to have pressure there has to be a restriction, or an abundant supply. as long as there's pressure then you have plenty of potential for flow; i say potential b/c the pump uses the return line as it's restriction. if there is a restriction before the pump then you won't get the same flow to the pump. best way to describe the flow rate of the stock lift pump... too little for anything but a stock truck.

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if i did the math correctly; when bobby posted the fuel system manual the spec for the lift pump is .70 quarts in 30 seconds at cranking speed. which is 2.8 quarts per 2 minuets; or 84 gal/per hr.
 

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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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well i have a 4bt in my truck and the guys still think i need a better liftpump.The factory liftpump the same part as the 6bt.How can my 4bt run out of fuel when theyre designed for a 6bt?Ive gotta get a fuel guage in the cab so i can see whats going on at higher loads.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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yer talkin the mechanical pump driven off a cam lobe????

flow rate is important but its expensive to measure flow, the easiest way is to measure the pressure as pressure is simple the resistance to flow....................easier put is to take an open ended garden hose and turn the valve 100% open.............the water will flow like crazy in GPM but will have little pressure since there is no resistance to flow........then take yer thumb and place it over the end of the hose, this will create resistance and the flow rate will drop (GPM) and the pressure will increase

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bottom line get a fuel psi gauge and monitor that......if the pressure gets low during hard acceleration then yer pump or system has issues and needs attention
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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0.75L (max) / 30 sec
3-5psi

That is straight from teh factory service manual. You pump will take around 15psi to the inlet w/o issue. Runs better like that too.

Here is what the FSM has to say about the fuel system

https://www.dieselbombers.com/1st-ge...el-system.html

The spec I found was at teh bottom of the last page. I would download it and print it out, easier to read like that.
 
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