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Old 05-14-2013, 05:44 PM
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Question Steering loose

I can't figure this out my 93 12valve it's steering is really loose, when I turn left all the way I can just let go of the wheel and it will just go in circles until I bring it back, its does the same thing going right but itll bring its self back somewhat,if anybody has any suggestions on what I should do I would greatly appreciate thanks
 
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:13 AM
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Have you done anything to affect the toe-in? That's what helps the wheels align on their own. An 1/8th" of toe-in will suffice. Other than that you may want to check your tie rod ends for excessive play.
 
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:39 AM
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The steering shafts in those truck often cause loose steering also. Check for excessive play in the rag joint and at the pop joint were the shaft meets the steeringbox
 
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First, your philosophy is wrong. The first-gen cummins-powered Dodge isn't steered. It's herded ........ Now that I've made the smartassed context-adjusting statement, ditto what was said above. The OEM steering shaft is very, very under-engineered. I've got a Borgeson in my 2nd-Gen and my son's got the other model of Borgeson in his RamCharger. That made a noticeable difference on both trucks. I've seen posts by guys who built their own for, like $35, by looking at a Borgeson or a Flaming River unit, and then buying 2 small U-joints, and a nice piece of slipshaft (that's all a Borgeson is, really) and doing their own cutting and welding. In addition to the tie-rod advice and the toe-out advice, the 1st-gens also have a reputation for frame cracks right near the steering box. There's a lot of places in the steering where ChryCo jacked the job. Fortunately, they did so with really simple, unsophisticated parts.
 

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Originally Posted by geddy's uncle
First, your philosophy is wrong. The first-gen cummins-powered Dodge isn't steered. It's herded ........ Now that I've made the smartassed context-adjusting statement, ditto what was said above. The OEM steering shaft is very, very under-engineered. I've got a Borgeson in my 2nd-Gen and my son's got the other model of Borgeson in his RamCharger. That made a noticeable difference on both trucks. I've seen posts by guys who built their own for, like $35, by looking at a Borgeson or a Flaming River unit, and then buying 2 small U-joints, and a nice piece of slipshaft (that's all a Borgeson is, really) and doing their own cutting and welding. In addition to the tie-rod advice and the toe-out advice, the 1st-gens also have a reputation for frame cracks right near the steering box. There's a lot of places in the steering where ChryCo jacked the job. Fortunately, they did so with really simple, unsophisticated parts.
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These things roll around like water buffalo if the aren't taken care of. Tie-Rod ends, Steering shafts, and your gearbox should all be checked. Sounds like it might be time for a complete front end redo!
 
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Sweet thanks really apperciate it guys, ill check that out tomorrow
 
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