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I agree with the limits imposed by a stock turbo-low 30's is about it. My experience on the headgasket itself is different. I've been running 45 psi since Jesus was a baby, with the occasional 50 hp shot of nitrous thrown in for good measure, and my timing is at 15.5 degrees. Original gasket and bolts, not retorqued, with 272,000 miles on it. Running like a champ. I may be the luckiest SOB on Earth, so don't assume you can do as I'm doing and not pop the gasket. I'm just throwing this out there.
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Yes, you are pushing it to the limits. It's not that it'll necessarily fly apart (though there is a chance of that), but rather that you're running it beyond the airflow and boost range where it's efficient. That means it starts adding much more heat to the air than a properly sized turbo producing the same boost would add on the same engine. In technical terms, the adiabatic efficiency drops way down. Hot air is less dense than cool air. This means that a given volume of hot air contains less oxygen (and less of every other gas that's a part of air) than cooler air of the same volume and pressure. This is why we have intercoolers-to get the benefit of pressurized air without paying the full penalty of the heat that turbochargers add. When you push the turbo too hard, it adds so much heat that the intercooler can't get rid of enough of it for the extra boost to really help. You end up working the **** out of your turbo for basically nothing, when backing the boost down a few pounds would be much easier on the turbo and not really lose anything in terms of mass of air delivered to the engine.
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Yes, you are pushing it to the limits. It's not that it'll necessarily fly apart (though there is a chance of that), but rather that you're running it beyond the airflow and boost range where it's efficient. That means it starts adding much more heat to the air than a properly sized turbo producing the same boost would add on the same engine. In technical terms, the adiabatic efficiency drops way down. Hot air is less dense than cool air. This means that a given volume of hot air contains less oxygen (and less of every other gas that's a part of air) than cooler air of the same volume and pressure. This is why we have intercoolers-to get the benefit of pressurized air without paying the full penalty of the heat that turbochargers add. When you push the turbo too hard, it adds so much heat that the intercooler can't get rid of enough of it for the extra boost to really help. You end up working the **** out of your turbo for basically nothing, when backing the boost down a few pounds would be much easier on the turbo and not really lose anything in terms of mass of air delivered to the engine.
that being said, the turbo shows no excessive wear, in fact its in really good shape. the reason im afraid to dial it back is because im ok with the waste gate bleeding off some drive pressure at wide open, but i really don't want it doing it all the time because it will make the turbo spool slower, and ill have to dial back the star-wheel to prevent excessive smoke. is there any way around this? id like to limit the boost but i dont want to be bleeding off drive pressure all the time, i want it to spool quick and then the waste gate start to open up... is this how it will function if i make the waste gate functional again? im really very new to this, im normally pretty good with engine stuff, i built and tuned the motor in my last truck and im familiar with forced induction but this is my first turbo(had a blower on my last truck) and this is also my first diesel.
Last edited by Chevy355mark; 11-06-2010 at 12:22 AM.
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