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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrongway
6 point, 4 inside the cab with a halo, and two bars out of the back of the cab welded to the frame rail. I believe the tubing was 1.50, and I have no idea on the thickness as S&S built it. I can find out next weekend as I will be stripping all the salvageable pieces off of the truck. And no, I don't intend to re-use it. Certain organizations want it for test purpose's. Now if everyone is through with the flaming, let's get back on the original topic. Life is way too short to argue. Either we help ourselves, or someone else will and I'm real sure that none of us will like it. Goodnight to all, and a blessed Easter. Gary
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by UNBROKEN
What Gary's accident did, and rightfully so is start some discussion on current rules. Some people take a 'wait and see' stance while others choose to be more proactive....but everyone should be able to discuss what's on their minds.
I hope everyone agrees, that is what is going on here.

Thanks for all of the input and discussion.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Question for those here that know more then I do on the topic but do you think that maybe a good harness and some better retaining walls would have helped? Maybe a reiforced seat with straps? Dunno just a thought rather then cutting your truck up for a roll cage. I believe that truck would never have flipped if it had stayed in the track.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselMinded
The External Roll Cage wasnt reasonable huh ?


Remember Red Green's external "as you drive" car wash? I picture that...plus remember who'll be building these---can you imagine "Sleddy's External Crash Bars, Inc".....oh dear god.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DangerousDuramax
So which cage was he running?
Quote from Gary on CompD: "6 point, 4 inside the cab with a halo, and two bars out of the back of the cab welded to the frame rail. I believe the tubing was 1.50"


It was done by S&S Racecars who if I remember right is in Kentucky.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by UNBROKEN
... I sometimes wonder if Mr. McSwain truly believes the drivel he spews. I think he might actually start these BS sessions just to get a rise out of people....troll like if you will.
Is it possible that every sanctioning body that deals with diesels specifically singles out McRat in some huge conspiracy theory to stop his so called Pro Street DMax from competing...or is it more plausible that he imagines this stuff due to lack of some form of medication ?
I have no idea....but it makes for some interesting reading....I guess.
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The majority of "hobby racers" agree, as does the NHRA.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001shrtbedcummins
So, you don't think it would have turned out a lot worse if he didn't have a cage?
no.
same wreck.. he would still walk away. chassis would have bent a little more but not by much...all the extra braceing form the back halve would keep it fairly straight.

there are no front kickers on the truck ie form front bar to front of the frame horn. only ones going backwards

the only major chassis part that was bent was aft of the rear axle, and the pass side door.... even here there is very little force on the cabine.. only ~12" of the windshiel is spider webbed most likely when it ladded on the pole...and shatered the door window as well
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now i am not saying he doesnt need one at all. a simple hoop cross bar and rear out riggers would have worked just as well.... remember the bigged consern in DR is rollovers and sliding. not dircet sharp impacts like road cours, circule track, score, ralley and what not.

roll bars are designed to augment the exsiting crash protection zones
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by STROKETECH
Question for those here that know more then I do on the topic but do you think that maybe a good harness and some better retaining walls would have helped? Maybe a reiforced seat with straps? Dunno just a thought rather then cutting your truck up for a roll cage. I believe that truck would never have flipped if it had stayed in the track.
That's understood, better walls are needed.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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