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DangerousDuramax 03-23-2008 03:46 PM

Roll Bars May Become Mandatory
 
Well...this is now stirring a problem that will racially affect who can afford to race. Seems that since this accident a hand full of people, MOST OF WHICH DO NOT RACE, are now petitioning the racing organizations to make roll bars mandatory under the following guidelines.

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8000 lb trucks running between 91 - 104 MPH need a bar. 104 to 123 needs an 8 point, NHRA certified cage. Over 123 and the basic NHRA 8pt cage likely won't cut it.

6000 lb trucks running between 105 and 120 need a bar. 120 to 142 needs aan 8 point, NHRA certified cage. Over 142 and the basic NHRA 8pt cage likely won't cut it.

This is not good for the sport and those of you that race need to get involved to help stop this from happening.

LOGANSTANFORTH 03-23-2008 04:00 PM

i cant wait til someone dies from ignorance......i know this is going to start a fight and i dont care......:pca1:

DangerousDuramax 03-23-2008 04:11 PM

And you obviously dont care that the rules would require slow daily driven trucks to add a cage which requires gutting the truck and removing the back seat as well as about 5-7K to get it done. This is ridiculous and will never fly. I'm not gutting a 50K truck and turning it into a two seater just to run 12's, or even 13's for that matter, and no one else will either. This proposed rule change will never pass and if it does there will be a mass departure from the DHRA and a new org will be born.

LOGANSTANFORTH 03-23-2008 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by DangerousDuramax (Post 136158)
And you obviously dont care that the rules would require slow daily driven trucks to add a cage which requires gutting the truck and removing the back seat as well as about 5-7K to get it done. This is ridiculous and will never fly. I'm not gutting a 50K truck and turning it into a two seater just to run 12's, or even 13's for that matter, and no one else will either. This proposed rule change will never pass and if it does there will be a mass departure from the DHRA and a new org will be born.

ummm you dont have to gut it to run a cage, also if people got a good builder (not some guy with a mullet, a arc welder, and old barn) they will have to remove or repostion a few things but not everything, and if your paying 5-7K for a 8 point cage you are an idiot......a 4 point is 1,500 to 2,000, so you think another 4 points is going to cost 6K.......great math on that one......

DangerousDuramax 03-23-2008 04:37 PM

Watch who your calling an idiot kiddo. I've built 23 race cars so I think I know a LITTLE BIT about what I'm saying. BTW- it has to be an NHRA certified cage so not just anyone can build it and yes it will cost you 5K. Yes, an NHRA certified cage will require removal of the rear seat. SO, you're all for making a guy that has a stock truck and nothing but a programmer have to cage his daily driver/grocery getter/tow rig and loose the rear seat to run in the 13's? Exactly what I would expect from someone who doesn't race and isn't worried about spending his own money.

TCU Fan 03-23-2008 04:51 PM

Easy......

DazedandConfused 03-23-2008 05:41 PM

Ok I agree with Logan on this one and have been around the sport for years. You do not have to remove the rear seat to have a cage pass. I've talked with a few local guys who build them for cars that run NHRA and they have built them in cars with the rear seat. If you dont want to run safe then dont run at all. I'm in the process of having mine looked at to see how my cage will have to run. I know I'm sure that when mine gets finished down the road it will need one. Also allot of tracks wont let you run without a cage around here if you run a 12.20 or faster.

DangerousDuramax 03-23-2008 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by DazedandConfused (Post 136189)
Ok I agree with Logan on this one and have been around the sport for years. You do not have to remove the rear seat to have a cage pass. I've talked with a few local guys who build them for cars that run NHRA and they have built them in cars with the rear seat. If you dont want to run safe then dont run at all. I'm in the process of having mine looked at to see how my cage will have to run. I know I'm sure that when mine gets finished down the road it will need one. Also allot of tracks wont let you run without a cage around here if you run a 12.20 or faster.

Thats incorrect and you can find that facts at Pat McSwain's website as to the details of what is required of the cage with the new proposed rule change (McRat Racing). We are talking truck cages, not car cages. I know a lot of tracks make you run a cage if you're faster than 12.20. Thats not the issue that the proposed rule change will cause. It will require a guy who has a stock truck and nothing more than a programmer to install a cage on his truck if he wants to race. Thats going to cause issues.
BTW- I've been racing for over 20 years myself and my father raced in the NMCA and pro-street classes.

TCU Fan 03-23-2008 06:13 PM

So this truck that ONLY has a hypertech will have to have a cage now?

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/IMG_0890.jpg

DangerousDuramax 03-23-2008 06:17 PM

Yes, because he will be able to clock faster than 91 mph at the end of the quarter.


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