The External Roll Cage wasnt reasonable huh ?

 

 

A solution for?

There is not a notable problem.

If there were a serious safety problem, I wouldn't be racing. I have no death wish, nor do I want to kill my wife, or any spectators.

There is a risk. There always has been. There always will be. You can put funny car cages in these trucks and still die, and still kill spectators.

There is no evidence that late model stock pickups running in the 12 second range are a danger to their drivers or the spectators. I can't say that for cars though. I've seen so many 12 second cars go into the wall that I lost count.

 

In the end though it's gonna come down to the fact that we are becoming a more regulated society like it or not. This means that we as even Diesel truck owners are gonna have to put our brand differences aside and work together to protect our rights. You as the Racing society are gonna have to put all the bad blood aside and find some common ground to hold before you get over run also. The bad guys are comin boys, if we don't learn to stand together and solve our own problems somebody else will sure enough solve them for us.

 

Well Pat you once again have missed the point to this discussion and instead of learning you try and ruin it for everyone else. This isn't about you or your truck or my truck, it's about the safety of running heavy weight vehicles at high speed. The fact that you know no one at NHRA or IHRA might just be why you do not know what is being looked at. SFI has already been involved and it was started close to a year ago. It's still being looked at today. With the latest wreck being used for some of the discussions. Now what little you've been to the track doesn't count for diddly do, and as far as 4x4 racing it's not event the point of this discussion so get over it already. What people are discussing is going to happen with or without you as it doesn't matter what you or I want. It's what they want and crying about it and saying it isn't going to happen only makes you feel better.

All the crap you keep posting everywhere about people street racing and people quitting is just more of your BS and not needed. Why am I involved in this really has no bearing on anything but just for your knowledge it's because racing matters to me and I've been at it much longer than you have event dreamed of doing it, and I would like to see it continue. How many race series do you sponsor anyways? Why don't you, for a change try to contribute something useful to the discussion instead of just calling people names when they do not agree with you.

 

If your truck is titled and insured for on road purposes you don't have a single purpose race truck Therefore making, like everyone else said, a caged street truck let alone 8pt dangerous... In the NHRA you don't have to have 8pt untill u hit 9.99 thats around 150 plus mph! I understand at that point you need alil more protection and when your approching those times and speeds, you take the "street" outa the truck. But wow, whether its here say or not 5pt 6pt or 8pt, at those speeds they "might" be required, you'll never see me race in dhra events again... I'll be watchin instead, alot less trucks too i'm sure....

 

I'm pretty positive nobody wants to mandate any type of bar in anything slower than a 12.0 truck anyway...no matter what some people may have you believe.
The bar rule is already in place for 11.49 and quicker....a move up to 11.99 wouldn't be that much of a jump. With the weight of some of these trucks...that might not be a bad thing....but that's just my personal opinion.

The "quick diesel" type classes are a 12.0 index so it really wouldn't change much of what's happening right now. The street trucks that run that class wouldn't be affected at all. Would a little tougher rules affect that many 11.5-11.99 trucks ? Many already have bars in them, most guys on the bubble plan to run below 11.49 and know they need a bar anyway.

Would "more" cage be a bad idea for the Pro classes ? I don't think so myself but other disagree I'm sure....especially those Pro Street drivers that can only compete because it was slowed to a 10.50 index.

 

Why do you say you will not race DHRA? They have nothing to do with it. That's just more BS McRat is trying to spread around. DHRA are not the people behind it. It's much larger than they are. Think along the lines of insurance company's. No one is asking for a ban on anything just a safety review that will in the end come out with new requirements. Those then will get in rules in the heavy weight racing at higher speeds. You can sit back and cover your head in the sand or maybe spend some time thinking about what may and may not help the sport. It's input from people that may come up with a good way to keep everyone happy, but sitting back and bitching about it isn't going to help anyone.

 

Did you think TTS meant a Hard Hat, or extra hairspray?

On your board, he called for rollbars. Here, he seemed to forgot how to spell it out.

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History lesson:

It was the EXISTING ProStreet Drivers and TTS, TS Performance, et al, who demanded the 10.50 index. I said it was dumb at time. But unlike them, I run per the rulebook, and don't make my own rules up in lanes. Basically Stuckey was hosing them so they wanted to catch up.

Now the exact same crowd who first wanted a 10.50 index, now want it unlimited, now scream it's unsafe, now want less rules, now want more rules for 12 second guys, etc, etc.

I never voted for the 10.50. Your "pals" are the ones who did. Safety? Rigggghhhttt...

Doesn't make you wonder what's up?

 

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