Being Wrong is Important... and, Admitting It is too!
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Diesel Bomber
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Being Wrong is Important... and, Admitting It is too!
Personally I have no use for the 40 short and weak....it's nothing but a compromise...and excels at nothing....
Being Wrong is Important... and, Admitting It is too!
Being Wrong is Important... and, Admitting It is too!
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Diesel Bomber
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A broken clock is right twice a day.......
Rob has forgotten more about shooting than you will ever know....
Rob has forgotten more about shooting than you will ever know....
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And why would it be I ask.....
The wounding/killing difference between the modern 9mm/40 short and weak & 45 is so very close it''s almost zero difference...it all boils down to number of spare cartridges carried...
How many rounds in a 45 mag, how many rounds in a 40 mag & how many rounds in a 9mm mag...
With 1 mag in the gun, 1 in the pipe and either 1 or 2 spare mags on your body you by and far have way more ammo on your person with a 9mm....
Not to mention you can get much more range time with the cheaper 9mm ammo, it's got way less recoil/kick, is easier on the weapon and the shooter and a much faster 2nd shot followup than the 40 short and weak...
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Did I forget to mention....
My 357Sig's....loaded with factory 125gr Gold Dot's clocks in at
3.5" barrel - 1415fps
4.5" barrel - 1525fps
And the 357 Sig is a much better caliber than the 40 short and weak...designed from the onset to replicate the 125gr 357 Magnum....the all time #1 human stopping round...and it's emulated this round quite nicely....along with being way flatter shooting...deeper penetrating...less recoil and harder hitting than the 40 short and weak....
It's a 9mm on steroids....
The wounding/killing difference between the modern 9mm/40 short and weak & 45 is so very close it''s almost zero difference...it all boils down to number of spare cartridges carried...
How many rounds in a 45 mag, how many rounds in a 40 mag & how many rounds in a 9mm mag...
With 1 mag in the gun, 1 in the pipe and either 1 or 2 spare mags on your body you by and far have way more ammo on your person with a 9mm....
Not to mention you can get much more range time with the cheaper 9mm ammo, it's got way less recoil/kick, is easier on the weapon and the shooter and a much faster 2nd shot followup than the 40 short and weak...
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Did I forget to mention....
My 357Sig's....loaded with factory 125gr Gold Dot's clocks in at
3.5" barrel - 1415fps
4.5" barrel - 1525fps
And the 357 Sig is a much better caliber than the 40 short and weak...designed from the onset to replicate the 125gr 357 Magnum....the all time #1 human stopping round...and it's emulated this round quite nicely....along with being way flatter shooting...deeper penetrating...less recoil and harder hitting than the 40 short and weak....
It's a 9mm on steroids....
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While my self defense gun is a CZ-75 9MM, which i like for the above reason, I'm not going to bad mouth the 40 S&W or the 45 ACP. Now I have a glock 22 with a BAR-STO 357 SIG barrel, & that 4.5 inch barrel only give me 1400 FPS with 125 gr. CCI brass. I think some one is BS'ING with those high velocity figures on the 357 SIG.
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