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PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 08:12 PM

Hi point pistols
 
I wanna pistol now, i want to get my chl. I dont want to spend alot either. My buddy has a .40 hi point and it shoots nice but its really bulky. For under $200 is it a deal?

I was thinking about this one
Hi Point 8 + 1 Round 380 ACP w/Black Finish & Hard Case $129.00 SHIPS FREE

But i really want a .45
Hi-Point 34510 45ACP/P 45ACP 9RD POLYMER $159.00 SHIPS FREE


I just think the 380 will be alot easier to conceal.

gunman41mag 06-12-2011 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763011)
I wanna pistol now, i want to get my chl. I dont want to spend alot either. My buddy has a .40 hi point and it shoots nice but its really bulky. For under $200 is it a deal?

I was thinking about this one
Hi Point 8 + 1 Round 380 ACP w/Black Finish & Hard Case $129.00 SHIPS FREE

But i really want a .45
Hi-Point 34510 45ACP/P 45ACP 9RD POLYMER $159.00 SHIPS FREE


I just think the 380 will be alot easier to conceal.

I won't pay more than $100 for an excellent condition HI-POINT, It'll shoot, but it's ugly & bulky:s:

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 08:26 PM

The .380 isnt as bad as that .45...thats why i consider it more. Has great reviews on buds gun shop. Any other brands that are as cheap? I dont want to buy used.

Benjamin 06-12-2011 08:27 PM

junk junk and more junk.... good news is they offer a life time warranty IIRC.... unfortunately they are junk.....

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 763021)
junk junk and more junk.... good news is they offer a life time warranty IIRC.... unfortunately they are junk.....

Have you shot one?

gunman41mag 06-12-2011 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763019)
The .380 isnt as bad as that .45...thats why i consider it more. Has great reviews on buds gun shop. Any other brands that are as cheap? I dont want to buy used.

PLUM the HI-POINT will shoot every time you pull the trigger, but it's not a gun you collect or will have any pride of ownership:nope:

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 763026)
PLUM the HI-POINT will shoot every time you pull the trigger, but it's not a gun you collect or will have any pride of ownership:nope:

Sounds what im looking for then reliable and cheap. I could care less what kind of pride it gives me lol. But i will say this they are UGLY!!!! So how is a .380 as a personal defense gun?

gunman41mag 06-12-2011 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763030)
Sounds what im looking for then reliable and cheap. I could care less what kind of pride it gives me lol. But i will say this they are UGLY!!!! So how is a .380 as a personal defense gun?

It's not the caliber, it's where you hit:c:

RSWORDS 06-12-2011 08:48 PM

Jason's got a .45, its never mis fired on him once, no issues at all. But its insanely heavy, ugly, the ergonomics sucked for me, and it groups like SHIT! Do yourself a favor and save up a little more.

I thought about buying a 9mm Hi-Point for my Bug-Out-Bag. Figured For a gun that will get 1000 rounds for a reliability check then put in a bag most likely never to be shot again I wanted something cheaper. After shooting Jason's I quickly dismissed that idea......

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 763036)
It's not the caliber, it's where you hit:c:

Lol well i went shooting yesterday, i shot 100 shells thru my 870 and about 25 thru my .22 mag. Im a terrible aim when it comes to pistols, i shot a hi point .40, ruger p94 .40, s&w 9mm, and a colt .38...i sucked! It was frustrating! I did get a bullseye at 120yds with a .308 tho. That was my first time shooting a rifle.

RSWORDS 06-12-2011 08:52 PM

Practice makes perfect!

turbostang7 06-12-2011 08:52 PM

i had a hipoint .45 for the price they are they aren't bad, i didn't use it for a target shooter or anythign like that, i only packed it while hunting to "finish off" things. didn't care if it got banged up on rocks etc. and never once failed me. i don't even know if i took it out target practicing for real, shot it at this and that but never for a serious shoot and see the grouping. for accuracy my 1911 is amazing! but much more than the hi point was lol

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 763042)
Jason's got a .45, its never mis fired on him once, no issues at all. But its insanely heavy, ugly, the ergonomics sucked for me, and it groups like SHIT! Do yourself a favor and save up a little more.

I thought about buying a 9mm Hi-Point for my Bug-Out-Bag. Figured For a gun that will get 1000 rounds for a reliability check then put in a bag most likely never to be shot again I wanted something cheaper. After shooting Jason's I quickly dismissed that idea......

I just dont want to spend alot, i dont really like handguns. I want to get my CHL so i want a reliable pistol that wont break the bank. I dont think the .45 hi point is a good CH since its so bulky. The .380 seems ok though.

Benjamin 06-12-2011 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763024)
Have you shot one?

i have sold a bunch of them when i worked at a gun shop. most were bought as boat guns.

yes i have shot them. they are big and bulky, but if you want something to go bang, then it might be the gun for you. if you want something to defend you and your family look at some manufactures that have made a name for their selves. Glock, Colt, Springfield, Taurus, Beretta, S&W, Ruger, Walther, etc. yes they cost more money but are worth it in the long run, especially in the the resale area. a cheap gun will never be worth more later on down the road. more expensive guns aren't a guarantee money maker but more of your investment will be retained later on when you trade in or sell.

also the Hipoint is the only gun you can chamber a round using only one hand....

RSWORDS 06-12-2011 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 763058)
also the Hipoint is the only gun you can chamber a round using only one hand....


:humm:

Explain?

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 763058)
i have sold a bunch of them when i worked at a gun shop. most were bought as boat guns.

yes i have shot them. they are big and bulky, but if you want something to go bang, then it might be the gun for you. if you want something to defend you and your family look at some manufactures that have made a name for their selves. Glock, Colt, Springfield, Taurus, Beretta, S&W, Ruger, Walther, etc. yes they cost more money but are worth it in the long run, especially in the the resale area. a cheap gun will never be worth more later on down the road. more expensive guns aren't a guarantee money maker but more of your investment will be retained later on when you trade in or sell.

also the Hipoint is the only gun you can chamber a round using only one hand....

Defending my family is a 870 shotgun, plus its just me and my dog. I plan to get a maverick 88 to keep in the truck. Like i said i dont really want a handgun but i want to be able to carry where ever. I do like the taurus Judge....I also liked my buddies Ruger .40....

Benjamin 06-12-2011 09:11 PM

the weight of the slide, when the gun is abruptly thrust in one direction and then in another will make the slide move and chamber a round if the mag is loaded.

example, this was done repetitively with snap caps to prove it to a local gun shop owner.

with the chamber empty, and a single snap cap in the mag, take the gun, point the muzzle towards the ground. move the gun up and then down towards the ground very quickly in one quick movement.

the weight of the slide will make it move slower than the frame, causing it to slide back and chamber a round. there is a video online somewhere that demonstrate this technique step for step.

it also can double as a hammer if need be.....

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Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763062)
Defending my family is a 870 shotgun, plus its just me and my dog. I plan to get a maverick 88 to keep in the truck. Like i said i dont really want a handgun but i want to be able to carry where ever. I do like the taurus Judge....I also liked my buddies Ruger .40....

if you want to Conceal Carry, then, the Hi-point is not for you. unless you wear clothes 3 sizes too big or have a few fat rolls to hide it under then you will never be able to conceal it 100%

Ramprat 06-12-2011 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 763021)
junk junk and more junk.... good news is they offer a life time warranty IIRC.... unfortunately they are junk.....

More like a junky boat anchor....totally shit pistols....not worth the pot metal they are made out of..

And yes, that's why they are so thick...they are made out of cheap assed pot metal, by a company that's been sued out of exastance 2 or 3 times, changes it's name and comes back...

Besides, what good is a lifetime warranty when the company goes out of business...

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Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763024)
Have you shot one?

Yep....several times, 9mm, 40 & 45...they all had problems feeding, jamming & were worthless unless you planed on hitting somebody with the brick...

Benjamin 06-12-2011 09:16 PM

wow we agree on something....

Ramprat 06-12-2011 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 763036)
It's not the caliber, it's where you hit:c:

Only up to a point...if you are shooting a 380, hit a crack head in the belly he might not even notice it for a week or 2...

the 380 is a worthless round..

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Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 763051)
Practice makes perfect!

Perfect practice makes perfect...shitty practices only makes shitty shooters and costs more money...pissing people off they can't shot worth a shit..

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 09:19 PM

Well shit! Whats a good concealed gun? I really want a .45. I know im gonna have to pay alot more though.

Ramprat 06-12-2011 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 763058)

also the Hipoint is the only gun you can chamber a round using only one hand....

Wrong...:tttt::tttt::tttt:


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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 763075)
wow we agree on something....

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Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763080)
Well shit! Whats a good concealed gun? I really want a .45. I know im gonna have to pay alot more though.

Go to a gun shop that rents pistols...

Rent a few & shoot them...

Play with them, see what fits your hand, what gives you a natural point of aim...what you feel comfortable with..

9mm or 45 would be my choice, using premium handgun ammo with quality modern JHP's and the proper bullet weight is more important than caliber any more...

9mm is cheaper, you can do more shooting..and it will kill you just as dead...

Take a good hard & long look at the S&W M&P line...they are great pistols..

And then get a quality holster & belt...not a cheap holster or POS belt..& take a class..

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S&W 9mm full sized M&P I got not long ago....I have a Secret City Weaponeers K25 holster on order...will be using it as my primary CCP once the holster get's here & I've got 1K rounds downrange out of the pistol...

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PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Ramprat (Post 763073)
More like a junky boat anchor....totally shit pistols....not worth the pot metal they are made out of..

And yes, that's why they are so thick...they are made out of cheap assed pot metal, by a company that's been sued out of exastance 2 or 3 times, changes it's name and comes back...

Besides, what good is a lifetime warranty when the company goes out of business...

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Yep....several times, 9mm, 40 & 45...they all had problems feeding, jamming & were worthless unless you planed on hitting somebody with the brick...

Funny you say that.The reviews i read and the youtube videos i been watching, they have had no problems with jams or feeding. They do say its bulky, heavy, and ugly.

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What does JHP stand for and what the heck is a muzzle compensator/whats it for?

Little Luke 06-12-2011 09:40 PM

I have a high point 9 mm, picked it up for $50 plus a box of rounds. Id like to pick up one of thier carbines

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Little Luke (Post 763092)
I have a high point 9 mm, picked it up for $50 plus a box of rounds. Id like to pick up one of thier carbines

Thats a great deal! Have any issues with it?

gunman41mag 06-12-2011 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763094)
Thats a great deal! Have any issues with it?

PLUM is you're looking for a good gun, that won't break the bank, buy a CZ-75 9MM, I have one in my truck:tu:

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 763102)
PLUM is you're looking for a good gun, that won't break the bank, buy a CZ-75 9MM, I have one in my truck:tu:

Thats a $500 gun, i was not wanting to spend over $300!!!!

XChris1632X 06-12-2011 10:16 PM

If you are looking for a cheap gun, take a look at the S&W Sigma Series. Heavy ass trigger but i think it is the best gun you can have for the money.

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by XChris1632X (Post 763106)
If you are looking for a cheap gun, take a look at the S&W Sigma Series. Heavy ass trigger but i think it is the best gun you can have for the money.

Found a 380 sigma for $255, i think thats what im going to go with. Very compact it looks like.

Ok probably a stupid question but whats bigger a 9mm or a 380? I would like a .40 or .45 but i cant justify the price.

gunman41mag 06-12-2011 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763113)
Found a 380 sigma for $255, i think thats what im going to go with. Very compact it looks like.

Ok probably a stupid question but whats bigger a 9mm or a 380? I would like a .40 or .45 but i cant justify the price.

Don't get a sigma 380:s: The 9MM is a more powerful round than the 380, Look around for a used CZ-75 it could be had for less than $350:tu: Remember the CZ-75 has a frame mounted safety & it's accurate:tu:

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 763120)
Don't get a sigma 380:s: The 9MM is a more powerful round than the 380, Look around for a used CZ-75 it could be had for less than $350:tu: Remember the CZ-75 has a frame mounted safety & it's accurate:tu:

I dont want a used pistola, i want a new pistola. There is a gun show at the end of this month i could save up for, so i can actually feel ALLL the guns.

gunman41mag 06-12-2011 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763122)
I dont want a used pistola, i want a new pistola. There is a gun show at the end of this month i could save up for, so i can actually feel ALLL the guns.

Feel all the guns you want, then check out GUNBROKER, AUCTION ARMS & GUNS AMERICA:jump:

PLMCRZY 06-12-2011 10:42 PM

I been on buds gun shop and gunbroker. My buddy uses buds and says they are top notch.

Ramprat 06-13-2011 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by PLMCRZY (Post 763122)
I dont want a used pistola, i want a new pistola.


Why is this....chances are you can save some $$$ on a used handgun & it's not going to be shot to death if shot much at all....might have finish wear...but big deal....

gunman41mag 06-13-2011 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Ramprat (Post 763151)
Why is this....chances are you can save some $$$ on a used handgun & it's not going to be shot to death if shot much at all....might have finish wear...but big deal....

I get great deal on used guns, very rarely do they have any problems & if they do, it's usually a cheap fix:tu:

Ramprat 06-13-2011 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by gunman41mag (Post 763180)
I get great deal on used guns, very rarely do they have any problems & if they do, it's usually a cheap fix:tu:

:c::c::c::c::c:

RSWORDS 06-13-2011 10:45 AM

CDNN has used police turn in Glock 22's in good condition for $329. You can send it back to and they will go through it and replace any worn parts for free.

CDNN has great deals on guns all the time. Here is the online catolog.

http://site.cdnninvestments.com/CDNN2011-1/index.html

RSWORDS 06-13-2011 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 763067)
the weight of the slide, when the gun is abruptly thrust in one direction and then in another will make the slide move and chamber a round if the mag is loaded.

example, this was done repetitively with snap caps to prove it to a local gun shop owner.

with the chamber empty, and a single snap cap in the mag, take the gun, point the muzzle towards the ground. move the gun up and then down towards the ground very quickly in one quick movement.

the weight of the slide will make it move slower than the frame, causing it to slide back and chamber a round. there is a video online somewhere that demonstrate this technique step for step.

it also can double as a hammer if need be.....

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if you want to Conceal Carry, then, the Hi-point is not for you. unless you wear clothes 3 sizes too big or have a few fat rolls to hide it under then you will never be able to conceal it 100%

There is a video of a guy with a glock doing that as well.

RSWORDS 06-13-2011 10:53 AM

I see CDNN has a new Sig SP2022 for $399 right now too...

EDIT: Typo on price...

gunman41mag 06-13-2011 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by RSWORDS (Post 763242)
I see CDNN has a new Sig SP2022 for $299 right now too...

Better to buy the THE SIG FOR $299 than the Hi point


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