Interesting opinion on concealed carry handgun calibers.
#171
For RAMPRAT and ERIC-AT-PTP: Handgun Cartridge Power Chart - Condensed Version (One shot stops)
Take it for what it's worth.
Take it for what it's worth.
#172
stopping power isn't about foot/pounds When I was young & foolish to believe what I read, I saw where the 223 had over 1,300 FP coming out of my friend AR-15, I had bought a SMITH & WESSON 657 41 MAG. with a 3 inch barrel with less than 700 FP, My friend put a CBS BLOCK & shot it with his 223 AR-15, 223 put a small hole on the front of the block, but left lead spray on the back part of the block. I then shot the block with my 3 inch 41 MAG. on the solid part of the CBS block & the block exploded to dust & tiny pieces of cement. My friend said, my 20 inch barrel 223 AR-15 has twice the FP of your 3 inch barrel 41 MAG, but the 223 didn't even penetrate te block on the hollow section & the 41 MAG destroy the CBS BLOCK. I learn that BIG HEAVY bullet, will do more damage than light little fast bullets
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Look at these, these are what I shoot.
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I dont see a 9mm or a .357 out doing the .44mag. But then again I already knew that.
Personal Defense > Products
I dont see a 9mm or a .357 out doing the .44mag. But then again I already knew that.
Meh.....big suprise...like running slick 50 in your car....
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#173
A 220 SWIFT has 1500 FP of energy, but so does the 45/70 does that mean they are equal one is for varmints & the other will kill a buffalo, but they both have 1500 FP of energy. Now you see why I don't go by the FP
#174
You don't see many 44 mags as LEO guns (I've personally never seen a single LEO carry a 44 mag)....but ya see a metric **** ton of 9mm's as cop guns...on one hand that does not say much, but on the other hand it says lots...
You need to balance the weapon/cartridge/bullet for the job....
#175
Yep, different tools for different jobs...
You don't see many 44 mags as LEO guns (I've personally never seen a single LEO carry a 44 mag)....but ya see a metric **** ton of 9mm's as cop guns...on one hand that does not say much, but on the other hand it says lots...
You need to balance the weapon/cartridge/bullet for the job....
You don't see many 44 mags as LEO guns (I've personally never seen a single LEO carry a 44 mag)....but ya see a metric **** ton of 9mm's as cop guns...on one hand that does not say much, but on the other hand it says lots...
You need to balance the weapon/cartridge/bullet for the job....
#176
Look at these, these are what I shoot.
Personal Defense > Products
I dont see a 9mm or a .357 out doing the .44mag. But then again I already knew that.
Personal Defense > Products
I dont see a 9mm or a .357 out doing the .44mag. But then again I already knew that.
#177
That's like saying sex is stupid just because you never had any. Cops carry 9's because there cheap to own and cheap to shoot. Besides no one carries a .44 for a potential shoot out, how ever for personal protection is a different story. Over penetration is an issue if you miss place your shot but the rounds I shoot just about shatter on impact and slow way down to do to much damage if it went through and through.
#178
Some calibers are designed to stop bad guys, some are not, some are designed to stop a bear...some are not...
It's all about picking the correct tool for the job....
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#180
Hyper velocity ubber light ammo is nothing new and looks pretty when it hits something full of juice to explode...take a look at the old tried and true Glasser Safety Slug....the blue turned out to be to light and fast, it dumped all it's energy on the surface & did not penatrate deep enough...hence the Silver slug...What good does blowing a huge hole in somebody do when it does not go deep enough to actually do anything other than superficial damage...especially of the person is a huge fat dude...
Then look at cost, how many of us are going to buy 100 of these rounds to shoot, nope, buy a box, shoot a few and then call it good, they are just to expensive to do any sort of training/shooting with getting to know the round & how it acts in a specific pistol...hell with the blast from a 2" 44 magnum and these round you have got to be pushing some major flame, noise and serious recoil....
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The pistol in this video is the exact same one I was playing with at the shot show...for me it felt a tad small in the dick beaters....but it seems a really nicely made pistol, loooong trigger pul...but was manageable and you don't want a 1/4 pound trigger on a pocket pistol anywhoo...
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