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Old 09-30-2012, 03:35 PM
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After having a few friends get together they came to me and asked me to give them tips and help them understand the dynamics of tactical shooting situations.

ALL weapons were cleared and checked by me personally and I had every magazine set on my truck and confirmed every mag on all 5 of us were empty and after all clear we went to the front door of my home.

Since my wife was gone with my son I had the opportunity to give them a full training inside my home and to be honest their initial room clearing was pitiful to say the best even with all of them attempting to work together wasn't fast or productive at all.

So since I do not own an AR-15 but I have handled them many many times I borrowed my buddy John's RR and I started to go through a slow and descriptive CQB room clearing as a single man.

After having to describe every simple firearm term that I was using they started to understand and walked away from an hour of simple instruction and they had the tools and understanding to take home and start gaining muscle memory and increasing their speed and precision.

So here is where you come in! I am going to post a few terms that I use to teach and instruct when shooting or training. I will post some examples and you can post any terms that although rarely used are useful to know.
 
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:41 PM
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Gangsta Gripping Your Gat

What they imagined I was talking about
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What I was meaning
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If I we are ever training and I tell you to quit Gangsta Gripping Your Gat I am telling you to not use the Magwell as a grip for your off hand and to move your off hand up off of the Magwell to a forward position on the front stock.

Gangsta Gripping Your Gat is not at all a safe or effective way to hold your firearm. You will have more speed, control, and accuracy by moving your hand to a comfortable position on the front grip and if you need a vertical place for your off hand then you need ghetto/gangsta grips.
 

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What I mean Ghetto grips or Gangsta Grips is a vertical front grip that gives you a firm comfortable place for your off hand that offers more control of the firearm when rapid firing or shooting on the move.

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Hmm I wonder where the term Gangsta Grips came from.

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Beer Canning a Mag

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Beer canning a mag although is a good way to get a firm grip of your mag in a CQB situation so it cannot be slapped or stripped from your hand. But also it is a good way to ruin the Feed Neck of your magazine. If you must Beer Can your Mag instead of trying to just Jam it Into the firearm you need to place the rear of the feed neck of the magazine in the well and pivot the mag Into place.

Personally I have always liked L Mag reloading.

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But you need big hands and it isn't for everyone. L Mag reloading is holding your new mag horizontal and pulling your empty mag using your ring and pinky fingers and then pivoting 90 degrees and sliding the new mag into the mag well. This allows a fast reload and you aren't dropping your magazine on the ground and beating it up.
 
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What is your background.....what makes you a "qualified" trainer, where did you come up with your terms and definitions?
 
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:05 PM
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My EMT and Fire Instructor is a swat medic and he taught me everything I know about medical field and firefighting and we have been good buddies for three years. On occasion I have the opportunity to go out with him to a swat team training and learn a few things which I get a chance to once every two or three months.

My Grandfather was a Army combat medic in WWII and earned two bronze stars, he is the one who taught me how to properly handle and shoot a firearm.

My dad was a Marine and also on the honor guard at Arlington cemetery and he taught me how to reload my firearms on top of going over and teaching me more about shooting which was just a refresher of what my grandfather taught.

My brother was a Marine and when he got back from Afghanistan he purchased an AR-15 and taught me how to handle the firearm properly and how to use it for room clearing and tactical situations. His was a bushmaster with a bull barrel and lead weights in the stock for competition shooting but it worked just fine.

I have had a very fantastic opportunity as a civilian to learn how to properly use a firearm in tactical situations. I am no Certified trainer but I have had more educational opportunities for tactical firearm use than most civilians.

I'm not at all out for any drama. If you don't believe me then don't. I'm tired of fighting over trivial crap. I'm not out to start fights I'm just here to have fun and talk about anything that comes to mind.
 
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Not drama.....just looking for fact based data.

Lots of what you have said comes across as somebody who has a little bit of knowledge...and no real training or experience to back up/support your claims & yet thinks you know/understand more than you actually do.

Good for your family history, but as we all know times change, tactics and procedures change...look at how the Army did handgun marksmanship in WWII compared to today...it's way way different...and the Army/military is always geared toward the slowest person in the class.

What you need to do prior to passing along information you think is good is to take a few structured courses taught by the guys who teach the operators/SWAT team guys...so you can really learn and understand how little you know now while dramatically improving your skill set's.....

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I will say 12 Valve Ive never heard those stances called what you call em, but your also out there in eastern states. I have no tactical training, and everything I know is what I have picked up watching kill houses, and reading articles, I do have an action plan at my house if I ever encounter gunman, and I have to clear and check rooms.. But like I said in your GUN POST, we can put up what we know, and learn from others aint that what we are hear for???
 
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Originally Posted by RanchhandTCR
I will say 12 Valve Ive never heard those stances called what you call em, but your also out there in eastern states. I have no tactical training, and everything I know is what I have picked up watching kill houses, and reading articles, I do have an action plan at my house if I ever encounter gunman, and I have to clear and check rooms.. But like I said in your GUN POST, we can put up what we know, and learn from others aint that what we are hear for???
Your in Colorado.....check out

Colorado - AR15.COM

And especially any posts by KellyH he puts on some quality training (both istol and AR) at a superb price

TTE Group Tactical Carbine I - NOV 17/18, 2012 - Denver CO (2nd class) - AR15.COM

At times other training pops up in that forum if ya watch it....
 
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Originally Posted by Ramprat
Your in Colorado.....check out

Colorado - AR15.COM

And especially any posts by KellyH he puts on some quality training (both istol and AR) at a superb price

TTE Group Tactical Carbine I - NOV 17/18, 2012 - Denver CO (2nd class) - AR15.COM

At times other training pops up in that forum if ya watch it....
What Im realy intereasted in doing is competing in long range tactical shoots, not the boreing becnhrest 1000 yards shooting, but first I need a gun cabable of it.
 



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