Spot on about learning marksmanship 1st and foremost...if you can find a Appleseed event i your area they are superb...cheap...and come with a history lesson as well...I've been to appleseed events where guys have had AR15's..and all kinds of tactical kool junk hanging off of them...lasers, lights, bipods and other crap...and slowly the crap comes off till it's just the rifle and iron sights....as the shooter can not even zero his weapon, has no idea how his BUIS works and the red optic was junk...and even with a good red dot optic at a Appleseed event...you are at a disadvantage due to the size of that dot....and Appleseeds are all about learning basic fundamental marksmanship....

Easy......the liberal gun hatting liberal/progressive media has "brain washed" people into thinking any black rifle is a "assault rifle" cuz it's scary....or if it has high capacity "clips" or magazines....or even a bayonet lug...just about anyting the media and politicians do not like becomes an "assault rifle"

An assault rifle is a select-fire (either fully automatic or burst capable) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. It is not to be confused with assault weapons.[1] Assault rifles are the standard service rifles in most modern armies. Assault rifles are categorized in between light machine guns, which are intended more for sustained automatic fire in a light support role, and submachine guns, which fire a pistol cartridge rather than a rifle cartridge.

Examples of assault rifles include the StG 44, AK-47,[2] M16 rifle, QBZ-95, INSAS, Heckler & Koch G36, and Enfield SA80.

Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

I learned hands down Wikipedia is not a credible source and is even said to be not a credible source even from the website itself

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_use

Also even if it is only a semi auto firearm then all you need is a bump fire stock and that allows you to have "selective" fire. Allowing the user to go fully automatic and you don't need a Class III approval and is completely BATFE exempt and comes with the certification and paperwork when you buy the slide fire stock.

 

Woza, you really like pouring gasoline on a fire don't ya....

How is this then as you do not want to accept a wiki definition...
It is Army intelligence document FSTC-CW-07-03-70 from November 1970, and was also published in later editions. The book is "Small Arms Identification and Operation Guide - Eurasian Communist Countries", written by Harold E. Johnson. It was prepared by what at the time was the U.S. Army Foreign Science and Technology Center of the Army Material Command.

The quote itself is on page 67 of this edition in section III, part A, paragraph 68a, and reads as follows:

"Assault rifles are short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachinegun and rifle cartridges."

The paragraph concludes by adding:

"Assault rifles have mild recoil characteristics and, because of this, are capable of delivering effective full-automatic fire at ranges up to 300 meters."

So there we have the "official US Army definition": select-fire, full-automatic fire, and an intermediate cartridge.

And that is that.....

Now about your bump fire stock......that is NOT considered class III by the ATF or the military...it DOES NOT alter the mechanical action but is a result of the recoil using an after market part and pulling the trigger each time....you can also bump fire with a rubber band if you know what you are doing...it does NOT turn your weapon into a selective fire weapon.....and does not allow you to go full auto...as selective fire and full auto is defined as more than one round fired with a single pull of the trigger....where bump firing is actually pulling the trigger for each round...

Thus end your schooling for the post

 

Yea if I can ever find an Apples Seed event I will give it a try! I highly hate Red dots for any ranges past 10 yards, for me they get in the way, What I realy like are low profile Iron sights, a good foreend, and a Fixed stock not an Collasable stock. Im still in college and this is my last semester and with a good paying job I hope, that I can broad my learning and shooting skills. I shoot bolt guns extensively, The gun I shoot the most is my Remington 700 SPS Varmint in 22-250, which I handload for and on a very good day, and when my Crappy Bushnell banner wants to grab light I have shoot a .42'' group and made a 527 yard shot on a prarie dog (Took two shots but I got him). I dont belive in using lasers and lights except for my Home Defense guns even then I carry a Maglight and use a technique My uncle taught me for defending my home, which I have yet to do, but pretend to every now and then... But my Biggest intrest is Long Range Precision shooting, and I would like to do the Tactical Competions Using a well made prescion rifle (Not a Sniper rifle) even snipers frown upon the word sniper rifles.. But at this very moment Im am leaning handgun skills since my 18 year old brother was so kind as to pay for my glock 22 awesome gift. My brother enjoys the 3 gun shoots and he has bought guns to do competions, hes saving for a good shotgun at the moment, but hopefully he can join a club down in Arizona and participate in that!

 

A good appleseed is well worth it and its like $40 for 2 full days of quality marksmanship....learning how to shoot instead of looking cool with goofy stuff hanging off your rifle...Saw one guy with a 22 conversion in his AR and iron sights out shoot lots of people, he knew his weapon and how to shoot....

Red dots have their place, but they fall under weapon for the mission & not one gun fits all...

Long range can be fun, but I've gotten away from it as my eyes are getting old and tired...up close and personal is where I'm at now...

 

Dude you need to just back off of me. I am sick of your attitude constantly barging in on my threads causing conflict.

Quit provoking me man I have done nothing to deserve your attitude and I am getting tired of it.

 

Dude.....I've had my concealed carry permit since 1984ish (except the years I was stationed overseas and it expired) have taken quite a few weapon courses & partook in such things as shoot houses before they became main stream.....have been a USAF range officer, started out as a armorer & worked my way up to the NCOIC of a Security Police armory...provided security to Presidential and other royal aircraft, flown on Nightwatch......had my own M21 rifle when on the EST (SWAT) team & sat on a roof with a SAS guy (and my M21) in direct support of the Queen of England..

I've pissed my pants in fear after getting shot at the 1st time....puked my guts out at the sight/smell of dead bodies, had/have nightmares and cold sweats among other issues due to **** I've seen and done....but somehow I've managed to do what needed to be done at that time due to training and learned what worked and did not work the hard way.....

You started things, talking about training and then calling your new AR15 build a "assault" rifle & then on to what selective fire was and that bump firing was full auto & such ....

You were proved wrong and you went and poured gas on the fire trying to be a wisw guy.....so once again the fact based data proved you wrong instead of your guesses and just wrong assumptions and silly ideas on your part.

Now you are crying that your being picked on due to your posting dumb stuff...and being proven wrong once again....It's called constructive criticism, learn from it instead of getting your feelings hurt and trying to cry foul....that's the sign of a immature crybaby when they get spanked and then try claiming foul for being stalked and picked on.

If you would have posted quality information, stuff that was correct and did not have the potential to get somebody in trouble, hurt or killed I'd agree with you and call it good.

Bottom line is don't go talking **** about "training" when you do not know what your talking about and expect to get a pass...

 

There is no constructive criticism to your attitude.

Now I have requested to have this thread locked because it is going no where and once again you have ruined a post.

Good job.

 

Dude, your funny..

Just for the record, you have around 1,326 posts....yet in only a very small number of threads (less than 5-8 I'm guessing) have I ever interacted with you.....thus either I'm not stalking/following you around...or you just happen to post stupid stuff on/in few threads about stuff solidly in my lane....and I've spoken up against you & hurt your tender feelings.

Just be a man & admit when your wrong...it's called personal responsibility.....we all can't be right 100% of the time...

 

You aren't being man enough to admit when you ruin posts for no reason but to cause conflict.

We all can't be right 100% of the time and you are correct. But I'm guessing you believe that you are one of the few that can be right 100% of the time. With your attitude of you are always correct and everyone else brings up an idea that you don't like they are always wrong.

Now I have asked you to back off and leave me alone. Now I am asking you nicely to stay away from causing conflict with me. It's clear that we cannot get along and I did not do anything to bring you into this thread to cause conflict.

This could have been a fun and educational thread but you have ruined another thread yet again with the attitude and constantly following the posts I create to cause conflict.

Now you are a grown man so perhaps you can see where picking on a 22 year old that has had a tough life is something that is wrong for you to do. You constantly attack my intelligence and manhood and it is degrading and uncalled for.

I don't come here to argue with anyone but you make a point to jump into literally every thread I make to cause conflict.

I am asking you nicely to please stop.