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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by smokeeaterlb7
on the contrary herer forcedinduction, where is YOUR proof that it doesnt assist or help anythig in a diesel engine?
Physics. A small amount of lubricating oil does not change the chemistry of Diesel fuel and that small amount of oil does not contain any additional BTU's over Diesel fuel. Those two facts alone disprove any claimed gains in power, economy or perceived engine operation.

Anecdotes like "the engine runs smoother" are not any form of proof.

FORD said, DO NOT ADD ANY ADDITIVES TO THE FUEL OR OIL ON MY 2008 6.4 PSD
As does GM, Cummins, Mercedes, Volkswagen, BMW, Cat, Detroit, Mack, International, Nissan, Volvo, Mitsubishi, Deutz, Perkins, etc etc.

some people have older trucks that can not handle the fuel that we buy now
Sorry, that is flat out false.

It is kinda like when they took lead out of gas they had to create additives to help the old automobiles function correctly.
That is also flat out false. Lead is an additive that reduced detonation and lubricated valve seats, lead was a functional addition to gasoline.
Sulfur has zero benefits, its a natural contaminant. The closer Diesel is to being sulfur free the better it is for EVERYONE.

2 cycle oil is better than
And using even B2 BioDiesel wipes all of them off the map.

2 stroke oil works, fact not fiction.
Sorry, that is flat out false.
 

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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction
That is also flat out false. Lead is an additive that reduced detonation and lubricated valve seats, lead was a functional addition to gasoline.
Sulfur has zero benefits, its a natural contaminant. The closer Diesel is to being sulfur free the better it is for EVERYONE.
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Yes i agree removing the sulfur is better for the enviroment however the process by which it is done creates fuel that is harsher to older diesel engines and if you dont believe that then that is your right. That is why there are additives. Also the main reason of a additive i believe is not to change the chemistry of the fuel but to lubricate the various parts of the fuel systems.
 
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rednekroper05
however the process by which it is done creates fuel that is harsher to older diesel engines
If you were to follow the discussion.....thats is exactly why the refinery puts in its own additives.

That is why there are additives.
That is flat out wrong. There are additives because people will buy them.
Its the exact same for any market. Nobody needs a Snuggie since any blanket will do the exact same thing, but marketing has convinced many people that they would somehow benefit from buying one.

but to lubricate the various parts of the fuel systems.
Too bad you're doing nothing that isn't already being done. AKA, money down the toilet.
 

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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction
...thats is exactly why the refinery puts in its own additives
If you had the slightest clue what you are talking about you would know that the lube adds are not introduced at the refinery. That has to do with FAA regulations WRT pipeline control.

You ever used any fuel adds? Any personal experience to back up your claims? What about professional qualifications? Work in the diesel engine industry, maybe a petrochemical engineer or something like that?

Why should anyone believe what you say? You have provided no information other than your dubious word to convince me of the veracity of your position.
 

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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction
If you were to follow the discussion.....thats is exactly why the refinery puts in its own additives.
Yes i have been following it.


That is flat out wrong. There are additives because people will buy them.
Its the exact same for any market. Nobody needs a Snuggie since any blanket will do the exact same thing, but marketing has convinced many people that they would somehow benefit from buying one.
With that logic then a factory diesel should be perfect with everone and no preformance parts should be made. However i see your cars are modded pretty well.

I am not trying to be a or start drama. But I know what I know and i have been around older diesels since I can remember so i know they ran better before ulsd and they still run like crap if i dont add anything to the fuel i buy.
 

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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Just in case you missed. An actual study done with various additives (even 2-stroke) that shows the gain, no matter minimal they are, there is still a gain. is it worth it?? that is for you to decide.
 
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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yeah i read the study and know i just wish i could get my hands on some bio-diesel.
 
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rednekroper05
yeah i read the study and know i just wish i could get my hands on some bio-diesel.
um, no you don't, it maybe the best lubricating, but you lose power and fuel economy, so it depends on what you wanna do with the truck, do you wanna get the best mileage possible and most power you're gonna want to use regular diesel, but if you want optimal fuel system lubrication then a bio blend would be good
 
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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mixing just 2% shouldnt drop mileage and power that much plus i would take a little drop in mileage or power knowing that my system is staying lubed.
 



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