Stock Transmission any good?
#11
Mine towed ALOT from 22k to 130 when it went out... then the second went from there to about 250 when I sold it...
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#17
Meh, I am not a fan of the stock automatic transmission. my parents went though 4 of them. I put a shift kit in it this last time and its ran so much better and it sifts smother and quicker. And hauling is much better since then, it doesn't search for gears on hills or going over the mountains. But we use that truck a lot and haul a lot of stuff around.
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#19
The early E4OD's suffered from a design issue that showed up due to what FoMoCo bolted in front of them...
Big block gas V8's and diesels.
An E4OD/R100 is basically a C6 with an overdrive built into it. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear are pretty strong. 4th (overdrive) was a weak link, as was the TQ.
3rd gear clutch pack in a E4OD has IIRC 8 sets of frictions & steels......the overdrive pack has 2 sets. I'm going off memory here as it's been a few years since I had one torn down...
More clutches = more holding power. Where does a diesel or BB gas engine make torque? Down low...right where the OD gear put the engine...and FoMoCo set the downshift parameters to make the trans go 4th-3rd-4th-3rd-4th-3rd etc etc etc all the time while pulling...PITA, lots of wear, lots of heat....
That much torque through a small set of clutches spelled disaster....then there was the heat issue. AT's build heat. You've got a big powerful low rpm grunt motor hauling a bunch of weight--these trucks are over 7k empty--coupled with a huge trailer, etc all through a weak clutch pack, weak TQ and one of the most worthless excuses for a factory AT cooling system ever developed.......not good.
Built properly with a good transmission cooler the E4OD is hell for stout.
It's been awhile since I had one apart but the internals--drums, planetary set, etc--- are very good for a stock production transmission.
Big block gas V8's and diesels.
An E4OD/R100 is basically a C6 with an overdrive built into it. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear are pretty strong. 4th (overdrive) was a weak link, as was the TQ.
3rd gear clutch pack in a E4OD has IIRC 8 sets of frictions & steels......the overdrive pack has 2 sets. I'm going off memory here as it's been a few years since I had one torn down...
More clutches = more holding power. Where does a diesel or BB gas engine make torque? Down low...right where the OD gear put the engine...and FoMoCo set the downshift parameters to make the trans go 4th-3rd-4th-3rd-4th-3rd etc etc etc all the time while pulling...PITA, lots of wear, lots of heat....
That much torque through a small set of clutches spelled disaster....then there was the heat issue. AT's build heat. You've got a big powerful low rpm grunt motor hauling a bunch of weight--these trucks are over 7k empty--coupled with a huge trailer, etc all through a weak clutch pack, weak TQ and one of the most worthless excuses for a factory AT cooling system ever developed.......not good.
Built properly with a good transmission cooler the E4OD is hell for stout.
It's been awhile since I had one apart but the internals--drums, planetary set, etc--- are very good for a stock production transmission.
Last edited by Mr. Miyagi; 07-15-2009 at 11:46 AM.
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