It was a flush.

Little or now compression in #3 cylinder. I'm planning on a full rebuild, but hoping that it will end up being less that that. (I know it's not likely, but I'm hoping!)

 

The Powerstrokehelp.com videos have multiple errors in them.

One error is saying the Ford Gold coolant is propylene glycol based - it is not! It is in fact ethylene glycol based coolant.

 

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Ah I can't wait to add my comment to this thread haha but I just got off a 12hr shift its 6:55am and I need to sleep. I really cant wait though I've been researching why elc are better than Ford gold for 4 days now I feel like I'm a damn scientists hahaha plus I read some thing in here that I really wanted to comment on but I really cant haha good night all I will return soon haha

 

There are people who have 4 year degrees dealing with coolants man, there is a LOT to it.

 

Wow I just wrote the longest message and accidently deleted it... Fml... There is no way I'm gonna retype all that...

In a nut shell though Ford gold contains silicates. Elc also contain silicates but not as much. Silicates are good as they disperse heat evenly and basically protect the cooling system. Because Ford gold contains a higher amount it has an adverse effect forming a goo in the cooling system thus resulting in oil cooler and egr cooler problems. These problems occur when the goo build up caused by high volume of silicate clogs the small passages in the cooling system. On top of that when silicate gets to hot it "drops out" creating a material that resembles sand.

at normal operation Ford gold is fine. but start raising the temp with a hot tune while pulling a fully loaded hose trailer up hill in the middle of summer well that's when the silicate does what Ford didn't foresee happening.

I think Ford knows this but changing their coolant to elc would kind of be admitting guilt. I feel the reason they say "only Ford gold" is because in using this product they make money on oil coolers egr coolers the coolant obviously and any other damage it might cause. Its a cash cow for them. They have cornered the market on their fuel filters why not coolant. That's just my opinion there are no facts to back what I just said up its just how I feel.

Dont get me wrong though Ford gold does exactly what its intended to do cool the engine and prevent freezing and it will work great given you maintain it properly and don't use the truck for what its intended on doing.

I advocate elc over ford gold because it doesn't gel up there is no drop out and its service interval is around 650,000 miles on top of that there is no need for any additives it does what its supposed to do and doesn't do what it shouldnt.

For those who don't believe me prove me wrong find neg articles on why not to use elc and why Ford gold is better but don't be biased also look up the advantages of switching to an elc.

There is a guy on another site who has conducted a few lab tests one on air filters and one on fuel additives id like to contact him and find out if he would be interested in orchestrating an experiment on this very topic using ford gold, evens waterless, cat 50/50, and delo elc concentrate because I'd like concrete evidence on this subject

 

Everything im gathering from all my reading from the subject is that either coolant you use you still need to maintain it. If you dont check it every so often, if you dont change your coolant filter, or visually inspect your coolant system then your doomed at some point. If you want to keep your warranty you should keep ford gold in your system and maintain it. As i see it if you go with ELC then you might gain a little extra time between intervals of flushing the system thus saving a little money in the long run, but what is a 100 bucks(for flushing) compared to changing the oil cooler or any other part that is affected by the coolant. I personally am going to try the ELC coolant and see how it does in the system. And that will be put in after a complete flush of the system with restore and restore plus and changing my oil cooler to a new factory cooler after the flush. If anyone has a place where i can get the coolant tested i will be wiling to do it and post the results. I will also get a sample of what im running now to test with it.

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I found this on the delo ELC it even says you have to maintain it to get that life out of it. Which one would yall prefer me try is delo any better than the zerex elc?

Delo Extended Life Coolant/Antifreeze

Imagine a coolant/antifreeze system that requires only these simple steps to achieve a service life of 750,000 miles/12,000 hours/8 years:

Use of Delo ELC 50/50 for top-up
Regular visual inspection for signs of contamination
Bi-annual check for freeze point

That's just what Delo Extended Life Coolant/Antifreeze offers.

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also found this tonight.

Keeping Your Cool With The Ford 6.0L/7.3L Powerstroke: Engine Builder

 

Just as an FYI, the ASTM 3306 standard for the Gold coolant states 250 ppm silicon by weight (max) for a low silicate formula. That is at most 0.01 pounds of silicon (or 0.032 lbs of silicates SiO4) in 4 gallons of concentrated Gold Coolant. That is 1/2 of an ounce of silicates. Not very much at all!

I am not advocating the Gold, but I know MANY people at 200k with no problems with their Gold coolant. I am at 105k and no problems. There is something else that has to go wrong to produce the gel in the Gold stuff. I agree that the ELC is less likely to gel up, but I have seen two cases where it has.

Well said jeffa6980

 

@Jeffa: zerex go5 is pretty much Ford gold if you want an elc go with the delo

 

the zerex zxed1 elc? and also are you going to be using the nitrite free delo?

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