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Old 05-12-2010, 10:48 AM
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otherwise called gorrila welds. ugly but strong.
 
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CheaperJeeper
Yup, sure did. The AC compressor was mounted on top right next to the alternator. I lowered the alternator about an inch (modified the brackets) and removed the AC compressor to get it all low enough to clear the hood. When it came time to figure out where to put the idler to replace the AC pulley, I discovered that the belt was too short. Fortunately I had a belt off a 4.0 Cherokee handy and it was just the right length.


Thanks! It might almost look factory IF it weren't for my crappy looking welds!

OH WELL, they may not look the greatest, but so far I have NEVER had one of my welds fail under stress, and I guess strength is more important than looks...
My welds ain't pretty either, but they hold. I don't have the room for the condensor since I moved the radiator forward, so i'm not going to mess with the AC for now. Now if I could get this goofy tach to work!!!!

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Old 05-15-2010, 10:12 PM
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Today was a GREAT day!

I went to the wrecking yard and got the rest of what I needed to be ready to put the engine/tranny back into the Jeep for the last time!

For $40 I got the following for my 700R4
a longer TV (kickdown) cable
4 gate floor shifter with leather covered T-handle ****
shifter cable & bracket to attach it to the tranny
torque converter cover
dipstick tube & dipstick

This week I got the CDR (crank case vent) system all modified and put together
NA exhaust put back on
all the cooling system components modified and put together (except radiator).

Should be ready to put it back in tomorrow afternoon
 
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Old 05-16-2010, 01:34 AM
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Good deal! What did the shifter come out of?
 
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Old 05-16-2010, 03:52 AM
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Good deal! What did the shifter come out of?
91 Camaro. I even got the bezel AND the "arm" that bolts on the tranny.

When the guy said 40 bucks I about fell on the floor. I've contacted eBay and Craigslist sellers and the best deal I'd found was $35 + $20 shipping JUST for the shifter and cable (no bracket OR arm OR bezel).
 
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Old 05-16-2010, 03:14 PM
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y a 4.3 liter diesel? i dnt know much bout them but aqrent they just converted gas engines?
 
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 92typhoon937
why a 4.3 liter diesel? I dont know much about them but aren't they just converted gas engine?
Fixed the typos and punctuation for you...

Why a 4.3L? Because I got 2 of them given to me and bought a 3rd for only $200 - making a total of 3 good engines for two hundred bucks. Plus they are a good size for the Cherokee, and since it is an engine GM was building in 84 when AMC introduced the Cherokee with the 2.8L GM V6, it is the diesel engine that I believe they should have put in them in the first place - instead of the undersized POS 2.1L Puegot turbo diesel. Lastly, I'm doing it for the "uniqueness" factor. I'll have the only one in existence.

Don't feel like you're alone in not knowing much about them and or believing some of the myths about them. Very few know much about them, but a LOT of people have heard the myths.

The 4.3L V6 gas engine is a Chevy 350 small block casting modified to delete 2 cylinders. The 4.3L V6 diesel is an Oldsmobile 350 BIG block casting modified to delete 2 cylinders. And the answer to your original question is, no, none of the Olds diesel blocks were based on gasser blocks. They are completely different much heavier castings. The 350 was however designed to be machined on the same tooling line as the Olds 350 gasser. Because of that fact the valve covers, oil pan, timing chain cover, and even the water pumps will interchange between the Olds diesel and gas V8 blocks. That was actually the big weakness of the Olds V8 diesel. Because it was machined the same as the gasser it had the same number and size head bolts (10 bolts 1/2" diameter per head). What was enough for a low compression gasser wasn't sufficient for a high compression diesel. So they blew head gaskets left and right.

Since they couldn't use the same tooling on the 4.3L V6 diesel, and the 4.3 gasser hadn't even been built yet, they did it right. The 4.3L diesel has 14 headbolts per head and they are 14mm (roughly 9/16"). They are really a good little engine and don't have the head gasket issues of their bigger V8 sibling.
 

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Don't expect too much in the way of updates for a couple of weeks.

I spent all last weekend working on my 4x4 Cherokee, and will be doing the same this weekend - all in prep for a wheelin' & campin' trip the following weekend (12th & 13th).

The first time I'm going to have more than an hour or two after work to make any real progress will be the weekend of the 20th...
 
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Originally Posted by CheaperJeeper
Don't expect too much in the way of updates for a couple of weeks.

I spent all last weekend working on my 4x4 Cherokee, and will be doing the same this weekend - all in prep for a wheelin' & campin' trip the following weekend (12th & 13th).

The first time I'm going to have more than an hour or two after work to make any real progress will be the weekend of the 20th...
Sweet! time to surge ahead!
 


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