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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 05:27 PM
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B&M 2000?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 06:36 PM
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B&M 2000?
not highenough. It needs to be at least 2400 stall. Call FTI and have a great one made for the price of a cheap stock one.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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Will a 3000 be too high? Might as well get it right before I drop mine in. The transmission came out of an S10, so should be close to a 2000 stall from the factory. Right now I'm running stock tires and wheels, but a 4" lift kit is in the future before I drop the motor in, with the winch and heavy motor will probably work out to be around 2.5-3" and I belive my present axle is around a 3.75.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 07:52 PM
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mmm that's who I called " FTI performance" . right ? ..
they recommended , unless I went with a custom made TC to use 2000 . what I was told was that with the stock engine and trany combo the stall rate would be higher then 2000 stated . should stall around 2300.
from what I could tell last weekend she was locking up right around 22 to 2400 if my tach is working right .
she also by the way shifted very nice using your numbers
thank you very much for the write up and in put .
 
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly1
Will a 3000 be too high? Might as well get it right before I drop mine in. The transmission came out of an S10, so should be close to a 2000 stall from the factory. Right now I'm running stock tires and wheels, but a 4" lift kit is in the future before I drop the motor in, with the winch and heavy motor will probably work out to be around 2.5-3" and I belive my present axle is around a 3.75.
3000 is too high.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Captchee
mmm that's who I called " FTI performance" . right ? ..
they recommended , unless I went with a custom made TC to use 2000 . what I was told was that with the stock engine and trany combo the stall rate would be higher then 2000 stated . should stall around 2300.
from what I could tell last weekend she was locking up right around 22 to 2400 if my tach is working right .
she also by the way shifted very nice using your numbers
thank you very much for the write up and in put .
I'm happy I could help. When I called FTI the first time I told them nothing of the engine and just gave them the HP and TQ specs and told them I wanted it to stall at exactly 2400rpm. He said he would install his cut stator and guaranteed it would. Fast forward to my second order and he tells me that's how they all come now. It appears the we may have the same torque converter that's just been lost in translation perhaps.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 08:57 PM
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Also remember stall speed is determined by many many factors; weight, boost, gearing, tire size. With the super pump I have now I'm stalling at 150-200rpm higher. YMMV. I try get people as close as I can though.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2017 | 09:24 PM
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ha no issues .
we see how things work and then go from there .thanks for the in put
 
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 06:33 AM
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I believe I will just leave mine where its at then, I've been reading on the Mercedes forums the peak hp is at 4000-4500 rpm on these engines, and they run 80 mph all day with 3.08 gearing. Of course they have shorter tires, but a heavier vehicle. I do mostly mountain driving, so its going to be in lower gears most of the time anyhow. Very seldom get on the interstate, and it's not a daily driver.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 06:53 AM
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I found this on the cars,
The 1985 does have a higher stall speed converter installed in from the factory.
'85 is around 2400 - 2700 RPMs and the previous years 1450 - 1650 RPMs.



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