I am so confused with this thread.
I have absolutely no clue what it's about.

 

The pic is post-amiss


1. Begle1 installs, or has someone install, aluminum rims on his Ferrari red D-250

2. Begle1 commences driving said D-250 onto highway at speed, approximately 65mph from his testimony.

3. Somewhere during said journey, the LF rim/tire combo parts company with said D-250 at said speed, resulting in (apparent) "D" shaping of brake rotor and stockcar-esque 'rub' mark on LF fender lip area, not to mention some odd English dissertations from the mouth of the driver, presumed to be Begle1.

4. Hilarity ensues as the DB monkeys add to discussion.

5. Someone hits that tree stump lookin' doohickey during the night.

 

Yup, pretty much hits it on the head.

The first thing I noticed was the bang and grinding noise from the front end, about a tenth of a second later I noticed that one side of the truck was about a foot lower than the other side, and then about half a second later I noticed the wheel bouncing across traffic.

Apparently from what I am reading from other people online (), this is a common problem as far as aluminum wheels go? Like, it's totally normal to have to retorque them repeatedly after putting them on before they stop backing lugs off themselves? And this is relatively common knowledge?

I got the rims for a song and had a tire shop swap my tires and rims and mount them for me... I drove 500-1000 miles until that one fell off. I didn't have any spare lugnuts, so I put my spare tire on with a lugnut off the right-side tire that was only finger tight and that was good enough to get it onto the flatbed.


Now I gotta see if I can get my tire and wheel back from CalTrans. I left lots of messages today in lots of bureaucratic cubbyholes.

 

10-4 good buddy...good idea on any rim really, but particularly aluminum rims, to retorque them after 50 or so miles of driving each time you remove/install them.

Hubcentric rims (those that center on the hub) are less prone to it than lugcentric rims (those that center on the lug studs) as they have less load against the lug nuts, but most any alloy rim will, over time, loosen up a bit.

Any rim will really, but the alloys moreso.

 

yes.. the torque of the lug nut will eventually compress the alloy, and require some re-torquing, usually after 50-100mi

common knowledge to everyone as far as I know.

 

Had pair of wheels back in high school, would NOT keep torque on the wheels. Lost a wheel twice, once with me and once with dad driving, but both times about 30-40mph on dirt roads thankfully. Finally got rid of them and went back to stockers.

And before you ask, the second time it happened, I was checkin the torque on them 3 or 4 times a week.

 

Not to sound like a know-it-all, but I still am struggling to understand how it can be common knowledge in some circles but I've never heard of it. I've never heard of OEM wheels backing themselves off on new cars, I've never heard of retorquing being necessary on big rig aluminum wheels after they drive out of a truckstop and don't stop for 500 miles, I've never had a mechanic at a tire shop or dealership tell me to bring it back or check torque after a few days, I know I never said it when I was a mechanic and I'm pretty sure I was never taught about it.

So is it wrong that I'm thinking that in reality a lot of these problems are due to mismatched parts? Are the stock lugnuts not the ones for these rims? What considerations are there for matching lugnuts and wheels even?





There's a little taper to the holes, the lug nuts center the wheels just fine. But I don't know for sure the little taper in the wheel holes wasn't pressed into there by the lugnuts in the first place...

Here's what the stock wheels look like.

 

dont those alloy wheels take the kinda lug nuts with the collar that fits inside the wheel? not the factory acorn type? then you will have more threads in the nut and they will center the wheel. the alloys look like lug centrics.

i always thought that alloys expand more when hot so with the proper nuts and torque they would actualy tighten up while driving. probably not a bad idea to recheck torque on brand new wheels but you shouldnt have to do that kinda maintenance if they put alloys on factory cars and sell them to blonde teenager girl drivers .

 

i have lost a few wheels in my life. i started checking them years ago. i think some of the trouble is guys not tq ing right. i know i never had one come loose that i put on.

 

That top pic looks like a Ford factory wheel, the lugs for them have a washer on them made for the aluminum wheels, never had one come loose