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Old 06-16-2009, 04:35 PM
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been using about 18 to 20 OZs of 2 stroke and sae 30 weight non detergent oil in my truck and it works fine. the TDI gets power service
 
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idk guys... i'm a recent grad and our fuels teacher addimently expressed that sulfur was actually an abrassive and he's an old timer; had his hands in so many pumps ya cant count em anymore... i'm not going to jump up and down and argue with anyone; i just hate to think i paid for an education and what i was paying for was just smoke being blown so i can sit around and fart smoke rings
 
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Old 08-19-2009, 11:45 PM
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If I understand it correctly, the sulfur doesnt provide the lubricity - but the process of stripping the sulfur also removes some or most of the lubricating properties.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mopar1973Man
Well Since DB.com has a 2 cycle oil thread I better get to work here...

Here we go... First off let me post my web site links...
http://www.frontiernet.net/~mopar197..._cycle_oil.htm

Second off here is my Dyno results running 105:1 Ratio of 2 cycle oil and Diesel fuel.

Ok Gang!

I got more to report about conserning 2 cycle oil and HP/TQ numbers... Yes I got my truck on to the rollers and got to dyno it out... You all are going to be shocked with my numbers.

First off let me lay down some baseline information. You all have seen my web page on my BOMBs and MODs I've done. Ok... We all know that the 2002 Cummins SO is rated for 235 HP 460TQ at the flywheel.

Run #1 - Stock mode with Edge Comp Turned off.
228 HP - 462 TQ

Well this proves there is very little drag between the flywheel to the rear end. Also this proves there was very little change in HP/TQ number conserning 2 cycle oil. I'm using conventional Dino lubes in everything except the transmission which requires the Castrol SynTorque. But still even this number is high for HP/TQ at the rear wheels... 2 Cycle oil maybe???

Run #2 - Edge Comp turned on 5x5
379 HP - 831 TQ

Run #3 - Edge Comp turned on 5x5
381 HP - 826 TQ

Ok we all know the Edge Comp give about 120 HP on 5x5 seting but now do the math. 381 - 228 = 153 - 120 = 33 HP difference! Where did this power come from? I got no other fueling enhancements and only a BHAF and straight piped exhaust 3"... It's got to be the 2 cycle oil helping the burn.. So never the less I'm a extremely happy camper and will continue to use 2 cycle oil. I will report my ratio of mix here soon I need to pull the information from my fueling logs. I know I'm much lower that 128:1 because I added a full quart to my last fill up.

But here is my dyno sheet...


And My Award from IBF.com Job well done!

WEB PAGE UPDATE WITH THIS INFORMATION
2 Cycle Oil Research

Just a question here. Not callin you a liar, just making sure I understand this post. Are you suggesting that other 33hp came from runnin 2 stroke oil alone?
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tower_ofpower
idk guys... i'm a recent grad and our fuels teacher addimently expressed that sulfur was actually an abrassive and he's an old timer; had his hands in so many pumps ya cant count em anymore... i'm not going to jump up and down and argue with anyone; i just hate to think i paid for an education and what i was paying for was just smoke being blown so i can sit around and fart smoke rings
4.7 Sulphur

Interesting information there. Apparently Sulphur isn't a lubricator for the cylinders, but the final paragraph states this:

Fuel sulphur has a beneficial effect in preventing scuffering of fuel injection components. Very low sulphur distillate fuels are used in environmentally-sensitive areas. A lubricity additive must be used to prevent damage to fuel injection components when operating on these very low sulphur fuels.
 

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Originally Posted by AF1CUMMINS
Just a question here. Not callin you a liar, just making sure I understand this post. Are you suggesting that other 33hp came from runnin 2 stroke oil alone?
I'm curios too, couldn't that have come from your after-market exhaust? Wouldn't have been the first exhaust system to improve horsepower, I believe.

Anyone pouring their old Rotella-T into their tanks? If so, are you filtering it really well, and how? I see it was one of the options in the study, and I believe it would be a great way to get rid of our used oil. From the crankcase, to the gastank, to the atmosphere!
 
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Originally Posted by North Pole Hooker
Anyone pouring their old Rotella-T into their tanks? If so, are you filtering it really well, and how? I see it was one of the options in the study, and I believe it would be a great way to get rid of our used oil. From the crankcase, to the gastank, to the atmosphere!
Cummins use to recommend this for the ole 12v and 24v engines. It will not work on the common rail trucks.
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckshotmckee
Cummins use to recommend this for the ole 12v and 24v engines. It will not work on the common rail trucks.

I'd be leary of this option. Wouldn't it be kinda dangerous with the contaminants of the old oil?
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 03:47 PM
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Cummins said to filter it before adding it to the fuel tank. If I recall, it was 1 gallon of oil for every fill-up?
 
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckshotmckee
Cummins use to recommend this for the ole 12v and 24v engines. It will not work on the common rail trucks.
What would be the difference for the CR's?

And yes, I would figure that filtering would be the name of the game for used oil. Like some really strict filtering and refiltering. Probably more than just pulling the left-over fries left floating around in the WVO.

I'm still VERY leary of putting ANYTHING into my tank. However, I have used Lucas, but after reading some of these posts, I think I'm going to stop using it in anything other than my quads!
 


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