I put a big vacuum over my batteries and sucked the hydrogen from my batteries as they were charging and got an additional 1000 miles on my tankful!!! :jump::jump::jump:

BALONEY!!! It didn't happen. a battery doesn't produce enough hydrogen to run a lawnmower and there isn't a person here who doesn't know that.

You might as well have said you ate a big bowl of beans and collected farts and burned that!!!!

Next time fill your tank all the way up when you check the mileage!!

I believe he was being sarcastic:jump:. He had to have been.

just curious why does everyone get so heated over disproving this?? and im not trying to piss anyone off and i truly do no know the answer to this question at x amount of rpms does the alternator only produce enough electricity to keep the truck running. in other words if i start pulling 20amps from whatever source while driving 70 down the highway will my millage get any worse?

Would like to see someone prove it. I would love to be able to get improved fuel mileage. The problem is, this is just plain old snake oil with people making a profit selling worthless gadgets and praying on other folks hopes. If they could prove it and make it work they would be billionaires......heck, I would buy the technology if it worked.......so would every Fleet of big rigs

i thought i remember somewhere (may be this thread too) that there was something like a million dollar prize to anyone that could prove it works, as of yet, no one has won it yet.

i saw with my own 2 eyes a setup on a jeep. the guy claimed almost 20mpg apposed to 14mpg he got previously and he was not trying to sell me anything. i know what you mean about snake oil. i just think that the "it takes more power to make it than it creates" argument is too simple of an explanation. i THINK that there would be enough power at say 2k rpm to at least not loose any mpg. if there is i will start turning off the radio and lights while driving...


and the argument about all the automakers would be using it is dumb im not a conspiracy guy or even close and i know better than to think the cars and trucks of today are not capable of getting a lot better fuel mileage.


anyways i wish someone would go into this with an open mind and test the findings on a wide scale with controlled experiments. not test one vehicle at one speed in one place with the same hho design. and not a witch doctor showing bs science on why his snake oil works.

The operative word is "claimed" he got better gas mileage in the jeep. This has been proven ( to fail). Wonder why no one has won the million dollar challenge that has stood for many years? It is because it doesn't work......chemistry proves that......do some research.

I have done the research. And got tired of only finding snake oil salesmen. That's why I wanted to see if anyone has played with it. And as chem I dunno much but the physics doesn't seem to add up to me. The principal that you always loose energy while converting it seems more than logical. But in the same way how does your turbocharger benifit the engine? Puts drag on the flow of exhaust right... and the alternator is already there and spinning causing drag all the time

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And yes yes yes I know the million dollar thing. But wasn't there a post in this very same thread that said research proved a 1% increase or something of the like. I guess they should pay up
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And has anyone here done it? And I'm not talking 2 copper electrodes in a pickel jar of saltwater

Well if you had done the research, you would know it won't work. Anyone can claim an increase in efficiency.......they just can't prove it......so they should just shut up.