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crazycooter 02-14-2012 11:03 AM

stock 5.9L cummins = 10,000 cfm @ 3000 RPM

better result from water methanol injection I would think

2004LB7 02-14-2012 11:24 AM

that CFM # seems more reasonable. don't know what i was thinking. this only makes HHO even more of a joke

8891daniel 02-14-2012 11:28 AM

seems to work on fishing boats where there is lots of power available from large jennys and lots of room for hho generators, like a dozen units or more.

2004LB7 02-14-2012 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by 8891daniel (Post 859128)
seems to work on fishing boats where there is lots of power available from large jennys and lots of room for hho generators, like a dozen units or more.

how much fuel are you burning in the generators. if you put this fuel in your boat engine i think it would run longer then with the HHO generator

8891daniel 02-14-2012 11:42 AM

not me personaly, read an article in national fisherman where they said 40 or 50% reduction in fuel usage. jenny runs 24/7 anyway so it does not use more juice. will try to find article and get the exact facts.

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speaking of alternitive fuels, they tried to run menhaden boats on fish oil, they said it gummed everything, and fish oil is getting more expensive than deisel.

2004LB7 02-14-2012 12:22 PM

nothing against you, just the "science" behind it.

generators will use more or less fuel depending on the load placed on them. larger load = more fuel consumed. we have a 75KVA generator where i work to run our equipment, this thing will run for days with no load but with a full load it will run its tank empty in a few hours. if you have a free source of power (ie: not your own fuel tank) to run the HHO generator then i can see where this might work

8891daniel 02-15-2012 09:01 AM

National Fisherman: Micheal Crowley explores On-Board Hydrogen. The soot count has also dropped
on oil samples from the genset. Schenck sends an oil sample to a lab every third oil change, which is
very 600 hours. “The viscosity is right where it’s supposed to be. All the additives are there, and the
soot level is at 0.1,” he says. There used to be a big black area on the side of the boat where the
exhaust came out. “Now it’s white,” Schenck notes. It’s the reduced fuel consumption for both the
main engine and the genset that impresses most people. Schenck says, “If you go by the factory
specs for fuel consumption and rpm, I’m using between 40 and 46 percent less fuel than before.”

I do not really think that it will pull 40% more fuel for a battery charger to power battery bank of what appears to be 8 batteries, if in fact their claims are true and accurate.
I emailed the company, we will see if we can get a rep to give the facts.

CaptJeff 02-15-2012 09:40 AM

HHO
 
HHO is a very effective tool we use to reduce fuel consumption as part of our overall fuel management system. However, to create HHO and to use it effectively it is a fairly expensive set-up. Anyone that has built a cell for $50 and had no results is the normal result, the HHO gets a bad rap and everyone decides HHO doesn't work. The fact is it works very effectively and has a number of additional benefits besides fuel reduction. You all can go to my website Home to see how we measure the fuel consumption in real time and verify the results.

8891daniel 02-15-2012 09:44 AM

seems that the $50 build is just proof of concept.:tu:has anyone here ever tried to build a bigger system?

CaptJeff 02-15-2012 10:03 AM

HHO
 
There are many HHO kits out there. As a Marine Consultant I work with my clients to find them the best possible solutions to reduce there fuel and other energy related costs. There are many HHO "kits" out there and hundreds of cells and parts on Ebay. I have researched over 60 HHO companies and have not found one that can produce any third party verification or 'measurable" results. Notice I said 'measurable" as we have the equipment to monitor fuel consumption and engine operations 24/7 in real time. The fact is all of these companies believe they can inject HHO at the rate of 1-4 liters per minute into the airstream of a diesel and increase the fuel efficiency. Depending on the engine the ratio of hydrogen to air flow is less than the percentage of hydrogen in the air we breath which is .0055. For these companies to operate in this manner and sell a product based on believe and testimonials is irresponsible and perhaps even criminal. I do believe as time goes on some of them will eventually go to jail. With all of that said, yes, HHO does work and is very effective, but not for the small operator. If you use 2000 gallons a month (truck, heavy equipment, generator, ship) or more our technology and fuel management system can save you money


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