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Old 05-17-2007, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
Some guys even dump USED engine oil into their tanks....

I am certainly not that brave....
Aawwww come on Doc. You would have a heart attack if you knew everything that I've poured in my tank. I put 1 gallon of used motor oil on a regular basis because it restores my injector balance rates. Diesels will burn just about anything you put in em.
 
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:36 PM
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Hmm, I wonder why you guys even consider all these additives. Besides the anti gelling function of some of them they are useless.

How many of you can say that you lost an engine or injection pump or injector because you didn't use an additive? I think you simply make the manufacturers of such additives wealthier by buying into their marketing.

I've been in and around the transportation industry all my life and see no reason to dump additives in your tank unless you are anticipating extreme cold.

Regular fluid and filter changes and you will be just fine.
 
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:46 PM
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hhmmm...you might want to stick around this site and get yourself educated. Hope you dont have a pre-95 truck.
 
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:55 PM
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I think there is genuine concern with the new fuel in 07 and we don't have enought history yet to actaully say there might not be a problem with lubrication..do we?
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:12 PM
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Well I know the BP distributor who delivers the diesel fuel to the sawmill I work at has said HE has seen a 30% decrease in his MPGs using the ULSD in his delivery truck. SO I would say something ISNT as good as the older fuels had been.
 
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:47 PM
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Yep, I was getting over 18 on Low Sulfer Diesel and now I get 14 on ULSD. Along with removing sulfur the lube packages had to be modified and now we'll suffer for that, especially the pre-95 trucks. Thank you EPA for targeting the diesel industry for your political agenda. However, I have found ways to get my mileage back and will be posting test results soon.
 
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:53 PM
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I do wonder about some of the fuel and how consistant it is in quality and grade. Cause some days I get almost 18 mpg and then the next it hussles to get over 15 and I buy it the same place and drive the same places. Yet it is NEVER the same on a day to day basis. I check my mileage EVERY time I fill up.
 
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:02 PM
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Right now the refineries are struggling to keep up with field production. The quality isnt going to be consistent especially while the process is being perfected. We do have several new refineries in the development stages that will be built but it will take a couple of years to get moving. The positive side is that when they get them on line diesel prices will come down again. The Gulf of Mexico is still trying to get back up to production and should be back to normal in about a year.
 
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:22 PM
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DD,

I have been responsible for a fleet of 26 Class 8 tractors that all have over 1M + miles for the past 9 years. The oldest of which is a '93 Volvo.

I have specifically instructed our drivers to only add anti gel agents once the weather turns colder.

We've been running on the LSD for a couple years now with no problems aside from a slight decrease in economy.

So, thanks for the invitation to education, but I'll take my chances with my 26M+ miles of experience before I buy into a bunch of marketing mumbo jumbo. Remember, the sky is falling too!

Most of the members here are not likely to keep their trucks long enough or put on enough miles in the short period of time that they do have their truck to see any advantage or disadvantage from the use or non use of additives. Like I said before, aside from the anti gelling properties additives have no function beyond separating you from your $$$. Oh, the same goes for synthetic engine oil and bypass filtration systems too. Today's oils are suitable for extended change intervals up to 25K miles pending specific use and conditions.
 

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Old 05-18-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jester
DD,

I have been responsible for a fleet of 26 Class 8 tractors that all have over 1M + miles for the past 9 years. The oldest of which is a '93 Volvo.

I have specifically instructed our drivers to only add anti gel agents once the weather turns colder.

We've been running on the LSD for a couple years now with no problems aside from a slight decrease in economy.

So, thanks for the invitation to education, but I'll take my chances with my 26M+ miles of experience before I buy into a bunch of marketing mumbo jumbo. Remember, the sky is falling too!

Most of the members here are not likely to keep their trucks long enough or put on enough miles in the short period of time that they do have their truck to see any advantage or disadvantage from the use or non use of additives. Like I said before, aside from the anti gelling properties additives have no function beyond separating you from your $$$. Oh, the same goes for synthetic engine oil and bypass filtration systems too. Today's oils are suitable for extended change intervals up to 25K miles pending specific use and conditions.
do u mean ulsd? because lsd and ulsd are 2 different animals all together. Obviusly you don't have a cummins with a vp44 injector pump because ulsd is not very nice to it at all without some kind of fuel system lube.
I think synthetic has pretty much proven itself over and over again. Research has shown bypass filters do work. Not everything on the market is snake oil, just all different applications. Also some of us will keep our trucks for a lifetime.
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