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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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I have a chance to buy a 85 6.9l truck with a ATS turbo, from the pics it looks like its non waste gated. Is there a big difference between a waste gated turbo and a non waste gated turbo? I will be putting the turbo on a 7.3 out of a 90. It will be taking the place of my powerstroke, I'm trying to keep the power without spending 5-7k. Also has anyone intercooled a idi? My obs already has an intercooler. Has anyone put a h2e turbo on a idi? Just brain storming. I'm limited on funds and need a truck now.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 12:52 AM
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the wastegated setup will spool quicker and build more boost. However, a non wastegated turbo will have a larger turbine, and thus less exhaust backpressure at a given flow rate. Some people suggest this makes a nonwastegated unit better for towing due to lesser backpressure.If you have the option between a wastegated kit and a Non-wastegated kit then go for the wastegated. You will build boost sooner and have more response. The wastegate allows the use of a smaller exhaust housing that can be spooled quicker and when the desired boost level is reached the wastegate opens to prevent overboost/turbo overspeed. If you choose a non-wastegated setup, then you have to pick a turbo that your engine can't over speed and will only make your desired boost at full load full Rpm, so it will be harder to spool than a wastegated turbo.

A "smaller" turbo will spool up more quickly (minimized "turbo lag") and offer better driveability in most cases. It will not generally, flow enough air at peak engine speeds to make big power. You'll make smoke, elevate the EGTs and risk the turbo. You will NEED a wastegate on the "smaller" to prevent turbo overspeed under load.

A "larger" turbo will spool more gradually (have noticable lag) and offer better performance under high engine loads because it can move relatively more air. This will keep EGTs low for a long happy life if fuel is reasonable. The "larger" turbo can get by without a WG IF chosen carefully.

Also as far as the intercooled idi , I can't really think of a disadvantage to it other then overheating of the oil in the turbo due to a faulty part, but rarely happens that I'm aware of haha, more or less it happens to the mini coopers where the oil burns up in the turbo due to the distance between the headers and turbo itself most only last 35,000 (ask me how I know)
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 10:42 AM
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The turbo's that I have found are all non waste gated. I do have a hypermax h2e on my powerstroke. How big of a IP and injectors would I have to have to turn it properly? It has a waste gate. I just don't have the 5-7k to rebuild the powerstroke.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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you could run it with stock injectors, I would upgrade to moose misters and a moose jr pump if you have the money for it. Will run you less than half the cost to rebuild your powerstroke
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:35 PM
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Where can you get them?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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I sent you a PM
 
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