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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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What is the sound of too much timing on the VE pump?

after my 366 spring, fuel pin, and AFC tweaks still running 16psi of boost prolly a leak)
I decided to bump up the timing a bit.. since it sounded really smooth and quiet after all that work, so I spun the pump a bit.. mark looks about the same on the timing case but I can tell by where the bolts were the pump definitely rotated more to the head. was going for 1/8" but i'm wondering if it didn't go closer to 1/4"

anyways, it's much louder now, and has that distinct diesel rattle to it, almost powerstrokey but not quite. just curious if maybe I went too far and what the signs would be.


EGT is a bit lower, boost is about the same but a lot less smoke, and gained my missing low end power back, plus a little on the top end.

i'll post a sound clip later if that would help. or you can kinda hear it in this vid.

 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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sh sounds sexy =D
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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have you lugged it yet? i slamed my pump against my head before i took it back to 3/16 and the thing sounded like it was gonna fly apart..... sounded great if i keept the r's up.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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that sounds good bud i would leave it alone i like it
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Is it warm in that video? Its hard to tell from the crappy sound on this laptop but it sounds likr you might have just a tad to much. Can you hear what sounds like bolts banging around in the cyl? If not your probably OK. Dont tow with that much though.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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it rattles a bit more than it did. I lugged it once and it actually sounds a bit smoother than before. can't say it sounds like bolts rattling around but cold like in the video its a lot more noticeable, after warm not bad. dunno what coming apart or bols in the cy
l sounds like never been that lucky uhm....... sounds half as bad as a cold chevy 6.5 haha man those are clanky.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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I liked how it sounds after we bumped the timing some... now time to check mine see if its backed off some
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Budgreen
it rattles a bit more than it did. I lugged it once and it actually sounds a bit smoother than before. can't say it sounds like bolts rattling around but cold like in the video its a lot more noticeable, after warm not bad. dunno what coming apart or bols in the cy
l sounds like never been that lucky uhm....... sounds half as bad as a cold chevy 6.5 haha man those are clanky.
When it starts sounding like a 6.5 you have gone to far.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Thats kinda what I've heard, only using a powerstroke for comparison. I figured I would use the 6.5 to compare since i've heard a lot more of those than powerstrokes.. the only powerstroke I really hear is the kid that revs his up everytime he drives by the house. I guess since he has a tuner he has the right to be annoying .

anyways, 440ctd the ride we took after doing it you really couldn't tell, NOW you can tell after I drove it for a bit. oh, and I swapped out the busted cab light too
 
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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about time you fixed that
 
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