High hp question...
#11
08-11-2010, 02:45 PM
thanks for all the input guys!!!! one guy asked above if i would be pulling anything. the answer is no. at most, a 20' boat on rare occasions. this would just be my suped up fun truck. i just love diesels. im definitely going to go with a 5 speed by the way guys. as i said before, i will spend the money to get this done right the first time around.
would it be more beneficial to do the p7100 conversion? and thanks again fellas
would it be more beneficial to do the p7100 conversion? and thanks again fellas
Last edited by CaTaDoN50; 08-11-2010 at 04:29 PM.
#12
08-11-2010, 08:15 PM
What makes you think rods and pistons are any more vulnerable at a given HP level in a CR than any other 5.9 -12v or whatever?
There were some bad injectors in the first runs 4.5-05. The CR injectors are generally speaking, more vulnerable to ULSD and contamination, no doubt. Good filtering and lubing eliminates that problem. Good advice for any diesel, as far as that goes.
There were some bad injectors in the first runs 4.5-05. The CR injectors are generally speaking, more vulnerable to ULSD and contamination, no doubt. Good filtering and lubing eliminates that problem. Good advice for any diesel, as far as that goes.
I know a few guys with common rails that have bent all 6 rods. I know they can all bend, just seems like the common rail do it more often. and know a guy with an 06 that is on injector set number 3. and he runs a 3 micron fuel filter and all that good stuff.
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thanks for all the input guys!!!! one guy asked above if i would be pulling anything. the answer is no. at most, a 20' boat on rare occasions. this would just be my suped up fun truck. i just love diesels. im definitely going to go with a 5 speed by the way guys. as i said before, i will spend the money to get this done right the first time around.
would it be more beneficial to do the p7100 conversion? and thanks again fellas
would it be more beneficial to do the p7100 conversion? and thanks again fellas
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#13
08-12-2010, 09:37 AM
Diesel Bomber
Once again 01, "Argument by Selective Observation" (what you observe on the Interent and your friends) is a fallacy. There are now and always will be more CR trucks on the road than VP44s. They will also be pulling sleds farther and winning more drag races. It's better technology, that's why it was developed.
#14
08-12-2010, 10:42 AM
That's because like I said, it's easier and cheaper to make more power with them.
is that why in the wanted section when people are looking for rods they want a 12v or 24v vp rod? They don't want the cr rod because they are prone to bending and snapping.
As far as fuel related issues go, you will find alot more trucks suffered from VP44 failures than hoofed CR injectors. "Your friend" is obviously doing something wrong. Running a stacked MP8? Pressure relief valve plug nonsense? When did he actually go to the better filter? Lots of information missing in this discussion.
I didn't say the vp pump was a great pump, but if you keep fuel to it, they live a long time. you can keep thinking all my friends are made up from the internet that I talk about, but if you pull your head out and listen to what i have to say and wipe the crap out of your eyes, what I talk about is from first hand knowledge of the person with the problem. He went to a fass system to try and help the injector issues. He is only running a smarty nothing else. If it is electronic it will give you problems.
Once again 01, "Argument by Selective Observation" (what you observe on the Interent and your friends) is a fallacy. There are now and always will be more CR trucks on the road than VP44s. They will also be pulling sleds farther and winning more drag races. It's better technology, that's why it was developed.
is that why in the wanted section when people are looking for rods they want a 12v or 24v vp rod? They don't want the cr rod because they are prone to bending and snapping.
As far as fuel related issues go, you will find alot more trucks suffered from VP44 failures than hoofed CR injectors. "Your friend" is obviously doing something wrong. Running a stacked MP8? Pressure relief valve plug nonsense? When did he actually go to the better filter? Lots of information missing in this discussion.
I didn't say the vp pump was a great pump, but if you keep fuel to it, they live a long time. you can keep thinking all my friends are made up from the internet that I talk about, but if you pull your head out and listen to what i have to say and wipe the crap out of your eyes, what I talk about is from first hand knowledge of the person with the problem. He went to a fass system to try and help the injector issues. He is only running a smarty nothing else. If it is electronic it will give you problems.
Once again 01, "Argument by Selective Observation" (what you observe on the Interent and your friends) is a fallacy. There are now and always will be more CR trucks on the road than VP44s. They will also be pulling sleds farther and winning more drag races. It's better technology, that's why it was developed.
#16
08-12-2010, 11:16 AM
I have 2 friends with cr's one had his just rebuilt a year ago when the #6 piston melted and the other is in the tear down process for the same reason. The first one put in 12v rods because they are stronger, and thats what the other guy is going to do as well. I see alot more 12v's and 24v's making that kinda power and staying together longer than cr's.
Sorry to hijack the thread.
Dual disk clutch= $1500- $2000
Big input shaft= Not sure never priced one.
Compound turbos= premade kit about $3500
Big injectors= around $1000
Big programmer= around $1000
Intake= $300
Exhuast= $300 - $1000
Head work= $1000
Stronger intercooler boots= not sure
Sorry to hijack the thread.
Dual disk clutch= $1500- $2000
Big input shaft= Not sure never priced one.
Compound turbos= premade kit about $3500
Big injectors= around $1000
Big programmer= around $1000
Intake= $300
Exhuast= $300 - $1000
Head work= $1000
Stronger intercooler boots= not sure
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#17
08-12-2010, 11:54 AM
Diesel Bomber
Anybody can build something to fail and spend alot of money doing it. That's been proven time and again. It also proves nothing about the validity of one platform's relative merit over another.
