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5.9L 12V Performance Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with P7100 Injection Pumps Related to Performance and Longevity

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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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Did I say you should run 21º? No, just giving an example.

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You can run more then that and the gasket will hold just fine as long as you dont try and blow it running it cold or beating the fark out of it. Running 21º on our current truck with stock bolts and gasket and that truck is treated like a $50 hooker.

you said "You can run more then that and the gasket will hold just fine " then said your truck holds fine at 21* of timing, implying that it is ok to run 21* on every truck with stock bolts and no o or fire rings.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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More then 16º also includes 17º and 18º and 19º. As I said, 21º was just an example, not that every truck should run it. To say that you CANT run more then 16º on stock gasket and bolts without the gasket going is not true.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Running more than 16* is asking for trouble.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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and you say that out of opinion and not out of experience?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 06:00 PM
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I state that opinion based upon facts I have collected on others whom have had bad luck running high levels of timing w/out supporting mods.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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maybe MAX was the wrong term for stock head bolts. the term SAFEST would be more fitting!
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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Well I believe max-safest would be even better :P
 
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 01:56 AM
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Well if you want safest, don't mess with it. Stock is safest. (but who wants stock?)

I personally would crank it up to 17 or so and call it good. 18 if you retorque
 
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 03:48 AM
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wat would i need with 5x12 injectors
 
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Well if you want safest, don't mess with it. Stock is safest. (but who wants stock?)
isn't that the truth
 
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