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Old 05-10-2010, 10:05 PM
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Don't ever torque your head hot I don't care who says what.
 
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:10 PM
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This comes right off the instructions if you wanna Argue with me

HEAD STUD RETORQUE PROCEDURE
1. Leave valve cover off, start truck and let run until it reaches operating temperature.
2. Retorque HOT ENGINE, first retorque only: STD studs to 120#, 12mm HD – 130#, 14mm XHD studs 150#
3. Check valves, re-adjust if necessary. Refer to service manual for valve adjustment spec
4. FOR BEST RESULTS: RETORQUE COLD ENGINE ONLY after 200 miles on street driven or after first competition
run. Check periodically after that, retorque as needed.
 
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Old 05-10-2010, 11:25 PM
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i would go with o-rings personally. i have also heard firerings tend to act kinda funny and o-rings are better for a DD. when you add studs and o-rings its pretty solid. i also agree that you shouldnt torque the head when its warm. heat expands things and what not.
 
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:24 PM
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sorry i haven't been on in a wile... i wasn't talking about my 1st gen, i have a 2nd gen engine for a project truck. thanks to everyone for the input looks like I'll o-ring the head for now if i pop the head gasket, I'll just surface the o- ring grooves out and fire ring it if the head doesn't get too thin. again thanks to all
 
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:59 PM
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70psi is insane on a daily driver anyway
 
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:24 AM
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i talked to a few local shops that do both o rings and fire rings. they said that the problem with using fire rings as a daily driver was fixed, they said that used to be a problem, but that they changed something and now alot of people that had them fire ringed at their shops are having good luck as dd. but im pry gunna still o ring mine
 
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Old 05-22-2010, 05:42 PM
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The new design helps but they still don't like heat cycles.
 
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Old 05-23-2010, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by diesel_addict
70psi is insane on a daily driver anyway

Nah, 70 psi is a fun DD
 
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70psi is fun as a daily driver
them garrets scream when a 23cm housing spools it right up
 
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Old 05-23-2010, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dan33klein
70psi is fun as a daily driver
them garrets scream when a 23cm housing spools it right up
how much sooner is your spool up since you swaped housings?
 


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