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Old 11-25-2009, 03:25 PM
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Yet again, You didnt answer my question. But as everyone here knows I'm plenty old enough to buy alcohol.
What test bench do you have don?
I'll be glad to post the information once they authorize me...and your right don, you cant be at fault for malfunction or failure. No doubt there but you can be held liable for not giving the customer what they paid for. I assure you this is very documented.
Again, You've threatened me so many times....I just laugh about it. Your hype and thats all you've got bud!

Again...I said If I Remember Correctly your benches wouldnt rapidly actuate the injector.....


Now with that said, Why are you becoming so aggressive in this matter. I've done everything I can to keep this civil. These are discussion boards, we discuss our opinions.
Maybe mine and yours dont line up but is that a reason to be extremely rude? I think I've done enough research to make sure my information is correct. Your coming into a forum where no one sells your products, So wouldnt it be smart to tread lightly and clear up my misconceptions....you getting mad and avoiding my questions just makes it look like your trying to bash me instead of letting your services and products do the talking?
I've been very civil, have I not? I offered for you to call me and we would discuss why our opinions differ...and havent gotten a call or an email.
You didnt even touch base on the fact the 4 of my customers and 5 that were not my customers (in the local 50 mile radius) had to send their injectors back 4 + times and each time they came back the trucks ran worse? You didnt mention that I stood behind you expecting you to at least get a set of injectors that would get the truck running to the point it could be driven.... you didnt mention the fact I paid over $700.00 in overnight charges giving you a chance to get it right? I told my customers you were the best around.....and when they threaten to press charges....you come AGAINST ME...Not them...ME and I was all there was involved in the situation that was on your side! AND I TOLD YOU THAT!!! Olee Poole was already fed up with you, he was tired of installing injector after injector that wasnt right and had to come back out.

And the worse part Don, You never admited that it could be somthing you did after the first injectors we sent.... This went on for months and you never said..."hey, We must not have somthing right" or "hey, Look I'm sorry but this just isnt working, we'll pay shipping and get the tips back and we'll drop it. Thats all that was asked for!
You would have kept your money for the repair, Refunded me for the shipping, and ONLY the nozzles that would be returned to you.

Whats worse, you come in here and say I'm talking childish crap. Where Have I been childish? I've been as open to hearing what you have to say as anyone else, and your way of disproving my claim is to act like this? By discrediting me? By talking all this thats no where near the original topic? And then think you'll command me to do somthing? Dont think so Don....See I've been watching that show lie to me.....and from what I've picked up your trying to be deceptive...

So once again, List the equipment used to test injectors by F1 diesel, or tell us or me or whoever what sets you aside from everyone else? I was willing to listen and here an explanation to the points i brought up....Now as im sure many others are thinking..I dont know that I want to here your explanation. Obviously, I'm still around with a shop...so I must have done somthing correct? And Besides when did this turn into a personal bashing fest? These sites are about the data and all you do is ruin your only chance to get through to people. Do I need to post the emails you didnt mention? The one from diesel nut to? The ones from Olee poole and a wealth of your other shops that refuse to use your products for the exact same reason?
I wasnt bashing you, I wasnt spreading lies, I was only repeating what I had been told.
Whats even funnier, I've been using DDP and Industrial for our injector repairs, and I have NEVER had to pull a set a second time. I never had to call 4 other people to get answers, They are wholesale dealers yet they talk to their customers?

Now, I will say with a big company on the scale you run it on, It would be impossible to talk to every customer so dont take that the wrong way..but you told me that I bought the injectors from Olee Poole and as far as you could see it was his responsibility to make it right?


So now that we've got all the personal issues out of the way, can we please have a discussion that proves that I'm wrong so I can remove the post you've asked me to?
Can we get into the details of what your able to do VS the other companys?
How you stand behind your customers? I gotta say, My 8's came back to you multiple times and not one word they were fixed without issue and the truck always ran great.....THATS AFTER the mess that we're talking about. Look whats on my signature...F1 Diesel Mach 8's....Isnt that enough to say I'm not on here bashing you?
If you've got issues with common rail injectors or had issues say a year ago, wouldnt the best thing to do, just say so and lets go on? Atleast tell me why the set you sent me back ran worse than his factory units?


I'm gonna say it again, I'm not saying you did anything wrong, and no where did i say that i thought you had. If you'll refrence the email that I sent in our last conversations regarding the injectors...all I was asking for is what to tell the customer, how to handle this situation...you wouldnt have even been out any cash???
 
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Old 11-25-2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mysterync
Don,
I appreciate your reply.
I'm not getting in a match with you. And you can see I've said plenty of good things.
You telling Olee Poole that I must have been "installing" the injectors incorrectly, Well thats just a way out I guess. I wont go into the details on that but If you would like me to I will.
I'll also post the Information one of my customers typed up, We can post the letter that DieselNut Wrote.....
As far as everything else goes , I guess It'll come out in time. I still think you've built some of the best VP Injectors that I've ever seen. I brag to everyone about your VP injectors.
If you had taken care of Me, The THREE customers that I HAD TO PAY FOR NEW INJECTORS FOR, Or Olee Poole, this would have never been an issue. I know you, I know your ways. I'm not trying to hurt your company, or your feelings but If you would like me to post the 50 + Emails between Olee poole, You and April and Myself I'll be glad to...Maybe we can get the say other 100+ folks that have had issues with your injectors in a CR involved.


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I would think that if 100 + people had all the problems your are claiming I would have heard of it already? So now I am not only being sued by multiple people I also have 100+ people with issues with their injectors? This is rediculous. I am not going to forget about this. Like I said earlier, you have a "pattern" of posting negatives about me and F1 Diesel.

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You can now prove to me you have knowledge like you posted who these 100+ people are and show me where people have filled lawsuits against me before you posted you had knowledge of them. Otherwise you have again lied about these 100+ people.
 
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Old 11-25-2009, 03:48 PM
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Yet again.
Okay I'm out on this one. I'm going to drop it. As you all see, He's not answered any of the questions. I've been open and civil about the whole deal.
And as it's seen in the last paragraph of his last post he's trying to be sneaky with his words. I've never said you had 100 lawsuits. I said you've got over 100 unhappy customers. Now whats funny is, thats part of life, you'll have some people unhappy.
I'll say it like i said it in my email...TRY ME....I assure you, that you've got two folks, one with the last name of waln and one with the last name of dollar that are planning on taking legal actions....you wont need to belive me soon enough.

Don, I'm sorry this turned out this way, but hope you have a happy holiday season and wish you and april the best!

Lucas

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Just to make this clear:
I personally feel Jeff Garmon is one of the best in the industry, Who is also a great friend to Mike Batterson and David Dunbar. Any friend of Mike or Dave's is a friend of mine. I've only heard good things about Jeff and was only stating I didnt know which test bench he had.
 

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Lucas, I demanded you remove the libel and you keep it posted. I asked you more than one time. I dont have 100 complaints from customers either. If we had that many I would not stay in business. Yet, you say I have 100+ people that are complaining, etc.

This is just you starting a storm with untruthful statements.

Show the lawsuit documents you have knowledge of. Defend your disaster of postings. Show me 100+ pepople you have first hand knowledge of that are upset. Afterall a defense of libel is proving what you posted.

The site owners dont so ANYTHING to remove them either. Freedom of speech is fine, but you cant allow people to write libel on your site. Its bogus. No one is suing me or F1, but you keep it posted.
 
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Old 11-25-2009, 04:12 PM
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CR nozzle bench brand/model? Or, what company does the testing for you? I deal with Gregg Spoolstra @ Exergy Engineering, in case you might say I won't give that information out.
 
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Old 11-25-2009, 04:15 PM
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Don, I'm not playing these games with you, And I'm not removing my post. There's plenty of proof to backup everything I've said. I'm pretty sure it's clear that I'm not the one with a posting disaster issue. And I'm tired of your "legal claims" you've preached this mess over and over again. When your ready to do somthing, I'll see ya in court!

Good Day
Lucas

Oh, and By the way....What Information did I post that was bogus? You've yet to point that out unless you consider 100 unhappy customers (which in turn you said complaints). But then again, that would be considered free speach to say you had un happy customers, not slander, and with a company thats been around as long as you...it would be hard not to get 100 unhappy customers even if you did everything right. I think the folks here know that if I was just running my mouth I wouldnt be so commited, plus most of the managment knows me personally and knows how I do things. There also considered close friends of mine, So please leave them out of it, no reason for you to talk bad about them they didnt do anything.....

This is my final post.... Don, you can sit here and try for the last word. You can have it, I dont care.
 

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Originally Posted by mysterync
First of all, IIRC Don M, or Jeff eaither one dont have the capabilities to do a full test on the CR Injector. Only a handfull of Bosch centers around the US can. Our Rebuilder takes the injector does a complete diagnoses, Call's us and gives his recomendation.
If the injector is in rebuildable shape, It leaves their shop in a fully operational state. Whats changed in the injector depends on whats worn and damaged.
The Parts F1 uses ARE bosch products. I've also got multiple customers with legal cases on Don Morrison. I cant discuss in regards to what but I will say it's involving CR injectors and poor repair and customer relations.
Abrasives in the fuel? with a 2 Micron filter, and proper water draining and filter draining methods I just dont see that much wear of a nozzle.

PM me and I'll be glad to discuss further!

Lucas

You cant understand that telling people there are "legal cases on Don Morrison" is a lie? There are no legal cases on me or F1 Diesel at all. Its bogus

This is a statement meant to harm me. Its libel Sir. I am sick and tired of this kinda crap. It is a plain and simple case here.
 
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First the lawsuit stories and then you tell everyone there are 100+ people that are complaining, or not happy, or whatever. I have never heard of them. Who are these folks? The way I see it, you posted yet another bogus statement to harm me. Like I said you have a "pattern" of this kind of thing.
 
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