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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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i have a noise comming from around the number 4 cylender if you listen to the line it is real clear its hard to describe the sound. it idels smooth dont miss or anything. is it possible i broke a injector spring or something in the tip and not cause a miss or rofugh idel
 
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Not likely, if there is failure in an injector, it would produce lots of smoke as the fuel will not burn properly. Could there be valve train issues in the #4 cylinder area? If you are up to it, swap injectors from cylinder to cylinder. Maybe move #4 to #1, and see if the noise follows the injector, or stays with the cylinder.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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okay i moved the injector and the noise stayed around the number 4 no soot in my intake so intake valves are all sealing. i cannot hear it in the exhaust side of the motor what about a valve guide?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Very possible, how about valve lash? I.e. bad valve train. I am told that 2nd Gens do not require valve adjustment, but I check them anyway. Might not be a bad idea to remove the rocker arm cover, and do a feel/look test on everything.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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i just adjested them few months back and rechecked them yesterday when i swaped injectors i had one that was a hair off and that was it any way to check a valve guide
 
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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I would assume if you had a worn guide, you would have oil consumption as well. To my knowledge, the best way to test a valve guide is to remove the valve from the head, and use a inside bore gauge. There are special guide measurement tools as well. But this requires the removal of the head. You could remove the spring from the valve, and give it a very rough "feel test". If the piston is at TDC, it will not drop into the cylinder. I am not sure what kind of tool you would use to relieve spring tension to remove the keepers. All the tools I have seen are used with the head OFF the engine. Have you tried cracking the delivery lines while running to see if the noise changes? Try #4, and maybe a few others as well, and compare the sound differences. Of course, take precaution with this, high PSI.
 
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