12 Valve 2nd Gen Dodge Cummins 94-98 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with P7100 Injection Pumps

Ive got a problem and need help!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-27-2010, 12:51 PM
dixieland1519's Avatar
Diesel Fan
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Huntsville AL
Posts: 42
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Ive got a problem and need help!!

My truck has about 200,000 on it. I was coming up the mountain where i live and before i got to the top it started knockin. I just adjusted the valves prolly 5,000 miles ago. It still pulls and runs fine but it sounds deep... standing at the front of the truck with it running you cant really here it....but if you bend down behind the front wheel you can hear it real well. It does it ideling...it does it driving around like normal but i can lock the tc up and throw the fuel to it and it pretty much stops all the knockin. We brock the injector lines loose one at a time and narrowed it down to the #4 cyl. Has anybody had this similar trouble any help will be greatly appreciated!!!!!! Thank you tons!!!
 
  #2  
Old 03-27-2010, 01:42 PM
lodal cummins's Avatar
Diesel Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: portland oregon
Posts: 462
Received 18 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

i bet # 4 injector blew off. pull that injector and see if that is the culprit. hope it did not damage the piston!!!!
 
  #3  
Old 03-27-2010, 01:52 PM
TwinStackPete379's Avatar
Diesel Enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NorthCentral Indiana
Posts: 411
Received 36 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

x2 on Injector ..my guess is that the tip blew off also. Good luck! keep us posted!
 
  #4  
Old 03-27-2010, 01:57 PM
12valvetater's Avatar
Diesel Bomber
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,474
Received 35 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

Did it smoke a heavy dark grey color? Not so much at idle but when given any amount of throttle?
 
  #5  
Old 03-27-2010, 02:08 PM
dixieland1519's Avatar
Diesel Fan
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Huntsville AL
Posts: 42
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ok thank yall i will deffinatly check it! I was worried that it was a rod bearing.... it does seem to haze worse if hold tha throttle at a certain rpm(1300-1700)while its just in park revving it up i havent drove it enough to kno how it does then do i need to?
 

Last edited by dixieland1519; 03-27-2010 at 02:09 PM. Reason: /
  #6  
Old 03-27-2010, 02:27 PM
Diesel Nut's Avatar
Diesel Bombers Sponsor
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 1,321
Received 109 Likes on 87 Posts
Default

Pull the injector and look it over. It could be broken, or it may just be poping off way too early. I just had an issue with my 94 where it randomly developed a really good tick, and I chased it and chased it. Finally I narrowed it down to where it had to be an injector problem. It was, #6 was actually not sealing against the head and leaking just enough compression by to create a tick, but not enough to cause performance problems. I towed an 18k lb trailer like that with no issues. So, pulled all 6 injectors, took them apart, cleaned them, pop tested them, reinstalled them with new coppers. Runs like a champ.
 
  #7  
Old 03-27-2010, 02:44 PM
dixieland1519's Avatar
Diesel Fan
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Huntsville AL
Posts: 42
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ok im about to go pull that injector right now and see what i can come up with ill let yall kno!!! Thank yall so much!!!
 
  #8  
Old 03-27-2010, 03:43 PM
zach_west's Avatar
Diesel Wrench
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canyon, Tx
Posts: 977
Received 33 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Ya not to steal somebody elses thread but when i pop tested my injectors they popped bout 700 psi less they shoulda and all of them had a dribble to them. They are bosch injectors i guess one of the symbols on there is a bosch symbol. but my pickup runs like crap now. and i have a grayish haze. i'm doing my timing here pretty soon also. is there any way i can rebuild the injectors?
 
  #9  
Old 03-27-2010, 05:48 PM
dixieland1519's Avatar
Diesel Fan
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Huntsville AL
Posts: 42
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well i pulled #4 injector and the tip was still on it....after i found out it was still on i was gonna go ahead and pull the rest of them but wen i went to break the other hold down nuts loose i noticed that they was alot tighter than the #4 injctor was so tomorrow i am gonna put that injector back in and try it and hope an pray for the best???.....
 
  #10  
Old 03-27-2010, 06:22 PM
zach_west's Avatar
Diesel Wrench
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canyon, Tx
Posts: 977
Received 33 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

I'd probably still pop test it just to make sure. thats why i poptested all of mine
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:23 AM.