Mosin Naget
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#33
All ammo is corrosive.Even commercial grade non-Corrosive stuff.The listed as Corrosive has primers that when fired produce a small amount of Salt as a byproduct and gives it a little more umph to start rust if you don't clean a weapon.If your a responsable gun owner then shooting the most corrosive ammo in the world won't ammount to a hill of beans.
#34
All ammo is corrosive.Even commercial grade non-Corrosive stuff.The listed as Corrosive has primers that when fired produce a small amount of Salt as a byproduct and gives it a little more umph to start rust if you don't clean a weapon.If your a responsable gun owner then shooting the most corrosive ammo in the world won't ammount to a hill of beans.
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BTW. Good old original formula Hoppes #9 was formulated in the early 1900's when there was no such thing as "non-corrosive" ammo. It will dissolve the salts just fine.
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7.62x54R.net will have all the Mosin Nagant information you'll ever need. Probably more, really.
That cartridge currently has the longest service history of any projectile in human history, with the exceptions of the rock, the spear, and the arrow. It was developed in 1891, and the first rifle to use it was the Model 91 Mosin Nagant. Approximately 5-1/2 feet of wood and steel, predating the Communist takeover. Rear sight on an original Model 91 was calibrated in hundreds of arshini (plural of "arshin", which was the pace length of a marching man, approximately 28 inches). Later, after Lenin took over, many of the old ones, and all of the new ones were updated to 91/30, which meant cutting the last couple inches from the barrel, fitting a new front sight assembly, and a new rear sight assembly calibrated in meters.
For those who like the Model 44, but are confused about why it won't "sight in", shoot with the bayonet extended. Having it folded/stowed changes the harmonics of the weapon and causes the rounds not to hit point-of-aim. Communist-bloc rifles' "zero" distance was 100m, too, by the way, rather than the US's preferred 25m standard. Doesn't mean superior or inferior. Just a preference with which the sight designers had to comply. (side note---the AR15/M16 round rises thru line-of-sight @ 25m, rises some more, peaks, and then falls back thru line-of-sight @ 200m). I don't think the Russians cared much about rise and fall, so long as the round struck P.O.A. @ 100m.
Ballistics approximately equivalent to .30-06Spfld, .308Winchester, .303Brit, 8mmMauser, etc.
Simple as bricks. Some are scary-accurate. Some are scary-random. Most of the bad shooters will be because of muzzle damage. Many were counter-bored a couple inches back from the muzzle to restore a clean break-of-contact with the bore.
And, like the humor link says, with a Model 91, you can affix your bayonet and poke the guy across the river without leaving the comfort of your foxhole.
BTW, they are, too collectable! Not for the quality, mind you, but, you'll want one from Poland, and you'll want a Peter the Great, and you'll want one made in France, and you'll want one of the US Contract Pre-WW1 Remingtons, and you'll want one from Hungary, and then you'll want one from Albania, and Romania, and China, and Korea, etc. etc. and then you'll need a 91, a 91/30 and a 91/59, and a 38 and THEN, you'll want a pile of the really sweet ones from Finland, etc. etc. etc. (those are the ones referred to where the humor link says "fought against itself, and won!")
That cartridge currently has the longest service history of any projectile in human history, with the exceptions of the rock, the spear, and the arrow. It was developed in 1891, and the first rifle to use it was the Model 91 Mosin Nagant. Approximately 5-1/2 feet of wood and steel, predating the Communist takeover. Rear sight on an original Model 91 was calibrated in hundreds of arshini (plural of "arshin", which was the pace length of a marching man, approximately 28 inches). Later, after Lenin took over, many of the old ones, and all of the new ones were updated to 91/30, which meant cutting the last couple inches from the barrel, fitting a new front sight assembly, and a new rear sight assembly calibrated in meters.
For those who like the Model 44, but are confused about why it won't "sight in", shoot with the bayonet extended. Having it folded/stowed changes the harmonics of the weapon and causes the rounds not to hit point-of-aim. Communist-bloc rifles' "zero" distance was 100m, too, by the way, rather than the US's preferred 25m standard. Doesn't mean superior or inferior. Just a preference with which the sight designers had to comply. (side note---the AR15/M16 round rises thru line-of-sight @ 25m, rises some more, peaks, and then falls back thru line-of-sight @ 200m). I don't think the Russians cared much about rise and fall, so long as the round struck P.O.A. @ 100m.
Ballistics approximately equivalent to .30-06Spfld, .308Winchester, .303Brit, 8mmMauser, etc.
Simple as bricks. Some are scary-accurate. Some are scary-random. Most of the bad shooters will be because of muzzle damage. Many were counter-bored a couple inches back from the muzzle to restore a clean break-of-contact with the bore.
And, like the humor link says, with a Model 91, you can affix your bayonet and poke the guy across the river without leaving the comfort of your foxhole.
BTW, they are, too collectable! Not for the quality, mind you, but, you'll want one from Poland, and you'll want a Peter the Great, and you'll want one made in France, and you'll want one of the US Contract Pre-WW1 Remingtons, and you'll want one from Hungary, and then you'll want one from Albania, and Romania, and China, and Korea, etc. etc. and then you'll need a 91, a 91/30 and a 91/59, and a 38 and THEN, you'll want a pile of the really sweet ones from Finland, etc. etc. etc. (those are the ones referred to where the humor link says "fought against itself, and won!")
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