other gun calibers
#31
The Mosin Nagant is a very good gun its accurate and will kick like hell with that 24" barrel and a synthetic stock. I have a Mosin Nagant M44 carbine Tula surplus and it packs a good punch. The M 91/30 was a very long rifle not very hunter friendly, thats why people cut the barrels down. You got a good deal if the action and rifling are clean. Some come in pristine condition others are burnt out inside cause of the corrosive ammo that was used in them and not properly cleaned. Use some dawn and scrub the action and barrel out real good, then wipe it down with oil, come back the next day and repeat to make sure you get all the power out or it will eat the gun from the inside out. That only applies if you shoot the corrosive ammo tho.
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#36
30-06 is a 7.62x53 cartridge it is a .308 bullet. 7.62x54r is .311 bullet. 54R can be had in a 203gr. and heavier bullet. The 30-06 has maybe 50ft/lbs of velocity more than x54R. 30-06 wins distance, I believe x54R wins knock down with the heavier ball. If you had a full length MN91/30 you might even surpass the 30-06 velocity. The sporterized barrel is probably comparable to my MN44 carbine.
Last edited by Bucket Truck; 12-14-2009 at 02:56 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#38
Sorry, I was wrong, it can be had in up to 210gr. The 7.62x54mmR is a very potent cartridge, in the same power class as the .30-06 Springfield. The spitzer bullets used in the military variants have a particularly elongated shape which results in a relatively high ballistic coefficient contributing to good long range performance and high retained energy. Data for a 12.0*g (185*gr) FMJ Match bullet boattail fired from a Dragunov sniper rifle at 823*m/s (2,700*ft/s) muzzle velocity, shows a retained energy of 1,012*J (746*ft·lbf) at 914*m (1,000*yd) with the bullet still traveling at supersonic speed under ICAO Standard Atmosphere conditions at sea level (air density ?*=*1.225*kg/m3).[5] When used with modern hunting bullets, it is capable of easily taking large game. In Russia the 7.62x54mmR is commonly used for hunting purposes mostly in sporterized Mosin-Nagant rifles and civil Dragunov variants (Tigers). Widespread use of modern magnum cartridges in Russia is not common among hunters (in contrast to North America where such chamberings are commonly used) with the 7.62x54mmR, even being considered a bit too powerful for moose. Large bears including polar bears are frequently hunted with it.
#39
7.62 and .30 caliber interchange.
.308 and .311, no issue...you can shoot either out of the same barrel. Ask Ruger...
You can get .30 caliber (7.62 metric nomenclature) way up beyond 200gr, or 210gr.....you can buy 30-06 in 220gr off the shelf as Remington Core-Lokt soft point (green & yellow box) for less than $20/box.
If you handload, there are many bullets to 250gr for .30 caliber.
The difference in velocities, energy, etc lies in the grain total of the powder charge, grain weight of the projectile, case capacity, primer, and the subsequent load pressures, but any .30 caliber bullet can loaded and ran in any .30 caliber/7.62xwhatever firearm case.
Last edited by Mr. Miyagi; 12-14-2009 at 11:18 PM.
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