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Old 06-10-2013, 08:14 PM
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Hello,

I am re-posting this in the potential owners forum instead of the introduction page. I would love some help on what I should buy. I'm not in a rush, so any and all opinions will be looked at. After several replies in the introduction forums I am leaning towards the Dodge 12v, however this guy might be asking too much. Please tell me if you think it is and what I should offer. I know the craigslist asking price is just that, asking price. So, what is fair? Also, I have seen many other trucks in my area for sale with the automatic. My sole purpose for choosing a stick is that I can change out the clutch, but cannot afford to have to rebuild an auto. I'm sure they are dependable, but I don't know how to quantify the life of an automatic. I am going to start looking at dieselbombers.com classifies too. Below is what I am looking for in a truck. Help steer me into the right direction. Thanks

1) Something I can work on - simpler the better but willing to learn, scratch that, looking forward to learn.

2) Something I will have fun in and fall in love with.

3) I like a stick on my gas vehicles, but I know the power band is much shorter on a diesel and willing to go auto for the right reasons.

4) 4x4 a must

5) bigger the cab, the better

6) short bed, don't need a bed at all, would be neat to put a flat bed with tool boxes on it.

7) I will use this truck 90% without a load of any kind and like to accelerate fast. I want to be able to burn rubber at a whim (I know I might have to build it up to do that too)

8) Ain't got to be pretty. If it's too nice, I feel obligated to clean it and not get it scratched. I want functionality over looks.

9) I have 25k to work with but want to start small and try it out first like under 7.5k.

10) Dually vs single rear..... I don't know. Dually would look way cool, but then I would have to buy two more tires.

Thanks for everyones opinions....... I can't wait to see what ya'll have to say.

Here's what I have been looking at and just think $7500 is way too much for this truck, if soo, what is fair to offer him? I know that something this old and with a diesel KBB is not so on it with fair prices. Or what should I be looking for. Thanks


1993 Dodge 12v xtra cab 4x4 230K miles 5 speed with exhaust brake. Currently he's asking 7.5k, however the body condition needs some attention, but can be driven as is for a while. For the past 6 years I have been on a helicopter as a Flight Paramedic and have found that our aircraft mechanic is extremely **** with the work that is done and refuses all help offered to him. He is a unique guy and would trust my life with his work on anything. That being said, this guy that ones this dodge 12v, is an airplane mechanic, which make me believe that he really took care of this truck and might be a diamond in the ruff. He says that he just rebuilt the front axle, and took care of all maintenance of the rest of the truck. I have heard so much about this 12v that makes me consider this as an option. all mechanical and no electronics to mess up. I would love this truck if the price is right, plus only one head, 6 of everything not 8, and one turbo instead of two.

Here's the ad for the Dodge
1993 dodge cummings 4x4


My goal with the truck;
I want a rig that can haul water, since here at 7000 ft some of the outlying neighborhoods have to haul in your own water to a cistern in the ground. So a 500 gallon tank in the bed is a must. 500x8.34=4170lbs twice a week in the bed. Both trucks should be able to handle it. The Dodge has that awesome 12v with limitless potential and many less moving parts to work with. I have never owned a diesel and look forward to this buy. It is not my only vehicle, just a fun truck to have for the winter snow and hauling wood and water. I also volunteer for wood4warmth.org. We collect wood all year long and haul it with our personal trucks back to the wood lot to process it for the winter months. We then give it away for free to those who need it. I have delivered wood to people without electricity and use wood as their sole way of heating and cooking. So it is important to me to do and very rewarding.
 
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchdoc77
Hello,

I am re-posting this in the potential owners forum instead of the introduction page. I would love some help on what I should buy. I'm not in a rush, so any and all opinions will be looked at. After several replies in the introduction forums I am leaning towards the Dodge 12v, however this guy might be asking too much. Please tell me if you think it is and what I should offer. I know the craigslist asking price is just that, asking price. So, what is fair? Also, I have seen many other trucks in my area for sale with the automatic. My sole purpose for choosing a stick is that I can change out the clutch, but cannot afford to have to rebuild an auto. I'm sure they are dependable, but I don't know how to quantify the life of an automatic. I am going to start looking at dieselbombers.com classifies too. Below is what I am looking for in a truck. Help steer me into the right direction. Thanks

1) Something I can work on - simpler the better but willing to learn, scratch that, looking forward to learn.
The 12v or the 7.3 are the easiest things to work on.

2) Something I will have fun in and fall in love with.
That can be either truck.

3) I like a stick on my gas vehicles, but I know the power band is much shorter on a diesel and willing to go auto for the right reasons.
Stick or auto is up to you. Autos in diesels are good because you can get on top or the turbo and stay there. A manual causes you to lose boost between shifts. WIth that though with a manual makes pulling a load, climbing a hill, and getting unstuck alot easier. A manual wont be as fast but I guarantee if you drive that Cummins with the 5 spd, you will fall in love with rowing the gears in that thing. I love my 5 spd and wouldnt ever drive an auto. There is just something about it that I cant explain.

4) 4x4 a must

5) bigger the cab, the better

6) short bed, don't need a bed at all, would be neat to put a flat bed with tool boxes on it.
Long bed would make for a better flat bed conversion.

7) I will use this truck 90% without a load of any kind and like to accelerate fast. I want to be able to burn rubber at a whim (I know I might have to build it up to do that too)
With the trucks you are looking at you are in the 125hp-160hp range. A 8000lb truck with 150hp isnt exactly a rocket. I would recommend putting this want on the back burner. Anything can be built to go fast and with diesels its simple but expensive

8) Ain't got to be pretty. If it's too nice, I feel obligated to clean it and not get it scratched. I want functionality over looks.

9) I have 25k to work with but want to start small and try it out first like under 7.5k.
With 25K you could have a built motor, tranny, flatbed installed, and anything else you want on that 12v. The thing with the 12v compared to the 7.3 is that the 12v has a higher HP potential.

10) Dually vs single rear..... I don't know. Dually would look way cool, but then I would have to buy two more tires.
You dont need a truck with training wheels. If you are pulling trailers over the road for a living then yes a dually. For daily driving and some work use, dont wast your money. Plus Im sure you know you dont want to get a dually stuck in the snow.

Thanks for everyones opinions....... I can't wait to see what ya'll have to say.

Here's what I have been looking at and just think $7500 is way too much for this truck, if soo, what is fair to offer him? I know that something this old and with a diesel KBB is not so on it with fair prices. Or what should I be looking for. Thanks


1993 Dodge 12v xtra cab 4x4 230K miles 5 speed with exhaust brake. Currently he's asking 7.5k, however the body condition needs some attention, but can be driven as is for a while. For the past 6 years I have been on a helicopter as a Flight Paramedic and have found that our aircraft mechanic is extremely **** with the work that is done and refuses all help offered to him. He is a unique guy and would trust my life with his work on anything. That being said, this guy that ones this dodge 12v, is an airplane mechanic, which make me believe that he really took care of this truck and might be a diamond in the ruff. He says that he just rebuilt the front axle, and took care of all maintenance of the rest of the truck. I have heard so much about this 12v that makes me consider this as an option. all mechanical and no electronics to mess up. I would love this truck if the price is right, plus only one head, 6 of everything not 8, and one turbo instead of two.

Look the truck over your self. Just because you know one good air mechanic doesnt mean this one is. The 12v has less moving parts but there is only one diesel motor that came with 2 turbos and that was the 6.4 Ford offered from 2008-2010. Everything else just has one charger

Here's the ad for the Dodge
1993 dodge cummings 4x4


My goal with the truck;
I want a rig that can haul water, since here at 7000 ft some of the outlying neighborhoods have to haul in your own water to a cistern in the ground. So a 500 gallon tank in the bed is a must. 500x8.34=4170lbs twice a week in the bed. Both trucks should be able to handle it. The Dodge has that awesome 12v with limitless potential and many less moving parts to work with. I have never owned a diesel and look forward to this buy. It is not my only vehicle, just a fun truck to have for the winter snow and hauling wood and water. I also volunteer for wood4warmth.org. We collect wood all year long and haul it with our personal trucks back to the wood lot to process it for the winter months. We then give it away for free to those who need it. I have delivered wood to people without electricity and use wood as their sole way of heating and cooking. So it is important to me to do and very rewarding.
 




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